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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:04 PM
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how can you tell visually if you need new rod bearings? They are as smooth as can be but where the two bearings meet on both sides the metal looks kinda worn but you cant fell any imperfections? what do you guys think? and do any of you guys know about how much new ones cost?
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:11 PM
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Bearings for a B-series block are about $10-11 each. Each rod journal needs two bears tops and bottom. If you aren't changing the rods and you didn't have any knocks, I always use the same bearings; they are worn to the crank journals. Check the clearance with a plasti gauge to ensure they aren't out of spec.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Reusing bearings is asking for trouble. Why would you reuse bearings? They are maximum 200.00 from acura, and require ALOT of work to replace if they are bad.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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whats so much work about em??
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:24 PM
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Pulling apart the entire bottom end. Its not my idea of fun.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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o ok well i just got done pulling my engine the other night and its all apart. Block is about one day away from GE..(I check my tracking number every day! hehe i know im impatient). I was just wondering cause crank is getting balanced tomorrow and was gonn buy all new bearings and rod bearings.
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Old Apr 4, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Maybe i've just been fortunite with not changing them.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dr Drew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bearings for a B-series block are about $10-11 each. Each rod journal needs two bears tops and bottom. If you aren't changing the rods and you didn't have any knocks, I always use the same bearings; they are worn to the crank journals. Check the clearance with a plasti gauge to ensure they aren't out of spec.</TD></TR></TABLE> WHERE do u get the gauge from?
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> WHERE do u get the gauge from?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Advance auto i know carry them, pep boys and everyone else should to if they sell bearing kits they have a platicguage
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 05:39 PM
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Try NAPA, also when you pick up a set of plastigaguge, make sure to check the clearance that you need, most domestic are not too tight with their clearance as hondas are..

Most hondas are .001 and up...so just make sure that it can check at least .001

stan
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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You can pick up the bearings from Honda . . . . but good luck. They're as eay to get ahold of a the winning lottery ticket.
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Old Dec 14, 2003 | 08:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Flamenco-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try NAPA, also when you pick up a set of plastigaguge, make sure to check the clearance that you need, most domestic are not too tight with their clearance as hondas are..

Most hondas are .001 and up...so just make sure that it can check at least .001

stan</TD></TR></TABLE> what is thestock clearnce for b18 motors?
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 03:14 PM
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you could always get ACL bearings, most of the time you can get the entire kit (mains, rods, and plasti-gauge) for like $100
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLUE EH3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> what is thestock clearnce for b18 motors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Main are about .001 to .0017 ish, I usually try to get them around .0015. You can do this by mix and match the bearing on upper or lower side.

Rod is about the same clearances...

One thing that I usually do, if the clearance are off with after market bearings (ACl and etc), try to mix them up, most of the time you get them dead on center...

I had very good luck with both OEM and ACL's..

stan
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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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get the stock bearings from honda, i got mine for a little less than $ 100 and i am pretty sure that this was rod and main bearings.

the only info that you are going to need is the numbers on the crank, rods for the rod bearings. Also the number from the block usually located on the bottom were the oil pan is located.

If you do not have a Heins your best bet os to go and ask your honda dealer for help and have them make a copy out of the Heins, thats what they did for me.

i hope this will help, if you have anymore questions just PM me.
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 03:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thid92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">get the stock bearings from honda, i got mine for a little less than $ 100 and i am pretty sure that this was rod and main bearings.

.</TD></TR></TABLE> i called up honda and they wanted 11 bucks for each rod bearing.. 11X8=88. bucks plus tax
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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they are expensive...

try len, he can get you a good deals on OEM bearing. Keep in mind, you need to order both upper and lower bearing.

stan
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AVATAR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can pick up the bearings from Honda . . . . but good luck. They're as eay to get ahold of a the winning lottery ticket. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not true anymore. All warehouses are now fully stocked.

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by camera guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not true anymore. All warehouses are now fully stocked.

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very true...even with some of the most popular ones like green, yellow and brown
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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when u drop ur oil pan, how do u know if u need new bearings?
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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When you look in the oil pan, and you see little metal shavings(they look like tin foil) thats one sign, I am sure there are other ways.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:13 PM
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tin foil
any others?
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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yup tin foil would be a very good sign

Plasti-guage is available at any local parts store. Manny Moe and Jack Off's, Advance Auto, Auto Zone, Checkers, Discount Etc.

Most places sell it in three colors.
Red - Green and Blue. It runs roughly 2-3 dollars for a strip. Two strips will be plenty.

As for re-using the old bearings... that's budget but it's a very smart investment. It's like putting a band-aid over a gunshot wound.
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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LoL - That was lucky post 69
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Old Jan 4, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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you drop the oil pan take off the girdle is its vtec and take off the rod caps. see if the bearings are scratched or worn one place...who take out the motor to check rod bearings?
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