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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Why do people hate B16a's??? post your comments
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 07:51 PM
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Lack of torque.

Didn't stop me from ordering one for my hatch though.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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alot of people complain about the lack of torque. I have my eyes set on a b18c w/lsd though. I drove a eg hb with a b16 and yes it does feel kinda torqueless like the d16 but still better then the d16 and that's why I have my sight on the b18c. you can't go wrong with a b18.

sorry didn't plan to make this a b18 vs. b16 debate
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Lack of torque, no displacement gain, overpriced for what you get (well, all motor swaps are like that), won't pass smog if it's JDM (I think; where I live, they don't even inspect cars- haha!), overrated.

It's a nice motor for a gutted CRX HF or 3rd gen Civic/ 1st gen CRX, but too torqueless for an '88+ Civic. I guess lack of torque is the big thing. It only has three more ft lbs. of torque than a D16Z6. Whoopeee!
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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what they said.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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what they said.
exactly. there are alot of threads about this... if archived thread wasnt down id tell you to search...
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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great swap for the EF's IMO

But EG's
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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B16a are just fine. Some people have different priorities. Some people probably get a 1.8 just so they can say "i got a 1.8" Blah!

b16a's are fine. Just ask Andy Hope or Norman aubry
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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yea...the torque sucks, but can't go wrong with 100 hp per liter
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:56 PM
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In my case: Jealousy.

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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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personally I love that little motor...very good numbers for what it is...despite that Im ordering a b18c1...
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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yea...the torque sucks, but can't go wrong with 100 hp per liter
i think that goes for all jdm b-series 1.6/1.8l's doesn't it? i like my b16.

anyways, this is soo frickin stupid. it's like asking, why don't some people drink tomato juice?

moving on. too bad you can't bump DOWN.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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i hate to admit this but i got beat by a gutted *** cx with a b16...when i say gutted i mean gutted.this was with my b18c1 in my SI
beat me by about half a front fender but a "wining is wining"(my vin deasel inpression)
this is why i swapped my b18c1 into a cx weight is a killer when drivin a honda
i still wouldnt get a b16 though
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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they're cheap
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Default Re: Why do people hate B16a's??? (HOTek9)

i honestly don't mind them, it depends on what you plan on doing with it if just wana get some more hp and cruise around town there kewl but if you wana drag you gotta bump up
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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Maybe you should ponder something else, because the bottom line on your question is obvious.

They're weak. People don't "hate" the B16, people hate weak motors.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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Maybe you should ponder something else, because the bottom line on your question is obvious.

They're weak. People don't "hate" the B16, people hate weak motors.

Drive a B16 and then a B18 and you will see why. Personally I don't really like the B16's that is why I have a B18C1 (soon to be built). Biggest issue like people said lack of torque. Allthough I don't think that the word torque and honda should be used in the same sentence. Anyways I love honda's no matter if my civic is torqueless.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Why do people hate B16a's??? (HOTek9)

b16s are good motors for their price.
you get what you pay for
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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great swap for a crx...civic i perfer b18b/c or b20b
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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i like the b16's...
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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You guys can suck it. The B18c is a step up from a B16.. thats why it cost more, but thats about the extent of it. Jesus, an H22 makes ur B18c1 seem puny and it doesnt cost that much more, but we dont hate. A B16 can put down some nice numbers, it just needs more work then its big brothers.

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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 10:06 PM
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The B18c is a step up from a B16.. thats why it cost more, but thats about the extent of it. Jesus, an H22 makes ur B18c1 seem puny and it doesnt cost that much more, but we dont hate. A B16 can put down some nice numbers, it just needs more work then its big brothers.
Definately. I think , in some places, the H22 costs less than the B18C1 but it's harder to fit into some cars. All of 'em are good. But if torque is what you're after, IMO, just 2 options....


1) V8 / V10
2) Boost that sucker!
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Default Re: Why do people hate B16a's??? (Loco Honkey)

It's a nice motor for a gutted CRX
Yep, I have one in my crx and I love it. Its got alot of torque to me. And I can chirp the tires all the way up to 4th gear.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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i dont hate my b16a, but if can start all over again, i would go h22.
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Old Mar 30, 2003 | 10:18 PM
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It's a nice motor for a gutted CRX

Yep, I have one in my crx and I love it. Its got alot of torque to me. And I can chirp the tires all the way up to 4th gear.
Not stock you can't... I HIGHLY doubt that..
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