Stupid question, D-Series Stroker??
Kinda.
AEBS and R&D both have blank cranks that they grind to a specific stroke per order.
Bookoo cash. AEBS won't even repsond to my emails either.
AEBS and R&D both have blank cranks that they grind to a specific stroke per order.
Bookoo cash. AEBS won't even repsond to my emails either.
Has anyone decisivley answered if the d17 crank would work in a d16? I belkeve I've seen that it will fit.(same main journal size) but would it work? There seems to be some confusion on R/S and geometry...
And did I read somewhere that a d15 crank would be another option?
And did I read somewhere that a d15 crank would be another option?
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back it up dood .
This site is full of people sharing bullshit information.
There have been so many posts bout the d17...and no real good answers...
share please
This site is full of people sharing bullshit information.
There have been so many posts bout the d17...and no real good answers...
share please
Good question. I was about to build my D16Y8 block with a D16 crank. Maybe I shouldn't.
I wonder if the D17 cranks are hard to come across since they are so new.
Oh and by the way I think RS Machine also makes a stroker for the D16.
I wonder if the D17 cranks are hard to come across since they are so new.
Oh and by the way I think RS Machine also makes a stroker for the D16.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good question. I was about to build my D16Y8 block with a D16 crank. Maybe I shouldn't.
I wonder if the D17 cranks are hard to come across since they are so new.
Oh and by the way I think RS Machine also makes a stroker for the D16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea there probably gonna be hard to find since there in the new civics
I wonder if the D17 cranks are hard to come across since they are so new.
Oh and by the way I think RS Machine also makes a stroker for the D16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yea there probably gonna be hard to find since there in the new civics
Don't worry about finding them. I'm sure they're available. But nobody can seem to answer my question for sure. Would it work?
And yes RS machines seems to have d series blocks. They don't list their prices. But I assume it's gonna be a couple thousand...
And yes RS machines seems to have d series blocks. They don't list their prices. But I assume it's gonna be a couple thousand...
Maybe the better question is, why stroke a D-Series? Why stroke an already low r/s ratio engine? Or, maybe I should stroke my car, too, hell even over-bore a good amount, that'll be good for reliability.
BTW we are talking about Y8's and Z6's, right.
BTW we are talking about Y8's and Z6's, right.
There wouldn't be any machine work if the d17 crank drops in. Assuming the bore, and main journals are the same, the d17 crank and rods should result in a larger displacement. So for the price of STOCK components we could have 1.7L(or 1686 to be excact) of displacement.
I'd say that would be worth it.
I'd say that would be worth it.
Reliability? I'm assuming the d17 is reliable? Being a factory engine. I could be wrong but that's kinda a honda trademark. All I'm talking about is making a d17 out of my d16.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe the better question is, why stroke a D-Series? Why stroke an already low r/s ratio engine? Or, maybe I should stroke my car, too, hell even over-bore a good amount, that'll be good for reliability.
BTW we are talking about Y8's and Z6's, right.
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why not? r/s ratio isn't everything. you don't have to rev high to make power.
BTW we are talking about Y8's and Z6's, right.
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why not? r/s ratio isn't everything. you don't have to rev high to make power.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tiamat-blue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reliability? I'm assuming the d17 is reliable? Being a factory engine. I could be wrong but that's kinda a honda trademark. All I'm talking about is making a d17 out of my d16.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I meant stroking an D, such as Y8 or Z6, which have low ratios, similiar to B18A/B's. Stroking wouldn't be the path I'd pursue, I'll less racing under strict reg's that only allow it as a solution for more power.
I meant stroking an D, such as Y8 or Z6, which have low ratios, similiar to B18A/B's. Stroking wouldn't be the path I'd pursue, I'll less racing under strict reg's that only allow it as a solution for more power.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
why not? r/s ratio isn't everything. you don't have to rev high to make power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, if you wish to drive your Honda like a domestic family car. Keep in mind, in low displacement engines the best way to improve high power output is through more revs.
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Or, serious boosted cylinder pressures, that stroking could never match by itself.
why not? r/s ratio isn't everything. you don't have to rev high to make power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
True, if you wish to drive your Honda like a domestic family car. Keep in mind, in low displacement engines the best way to improve high power output is through more revs.
*edit*
Or, serious boosted cylinder pressures, that stroking could never match by itself.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am building a nitrous car. Not necessary to have high revs for me.</TD></TR></TABLE>
A least you have a reason.
I just grow sick of the idoits at school, "stroke-it"-just because
It's a LS, sooo....
Bore it
A least you have a reason.
I just grow sick of the idoits at school, "stroke-it"-just because
It's a LS, sooo....
Bore it
yea, you definently don't need super high revs for nice power. The new sentra has tons of piston speed because of the stroke, but has low rpms. even still, it has great power. piston speed is more important than rpms. that would be the other problem with a stroker kit, you would definently need some ecu work, and that kinda defeats the purpose of doing a d-series stroker, on affordablility. Someone needs to get the ***** to try this though, because i think it could be a ton of fun.
I know a guy that supposedly did a d17 crank in a y8 block and got it running, he was on alternativehondas.com which changed over to a new site (old site got shut down) but i haven't heard anything from him since...
I've got a z6 bottom end and a '01 d17a2 bottom end, just trying to figure specs out between all the d17 pistons/head cc's/compression heights/etc (ie-dx/lx,ex,gx,etc)... if anyone has these or has access to these specs, it would help tremendously! Please let me know
A few things I DO know for fact about '01+ d17's:
dx/lx is D17A1, NON-vtec
ex is D17A2, VTEC (i-vtec?) compression is 9.9:1
hx is ??
gx is ??
'01 d17 block is completely different design from older d's- heads will not interchange, motor mounts are different, most older d-parts won't fit the newer blocks and vice-versa
ALL '01+ d17s use the same crank- 94.4mm stroke
ALL '01+ d17 rods are thinner at the crank end so you have to use d17 rods or have rods machined
dx/lx/ex/hx use same rods, gx 4-dr uses different rods (dunno why different yet)
dx/lx use same pistons, ex and gx are different
suposedly the d17 oil pump drive is larger so you would have to use the d17 oil pump
hopefully i will have some time to screw around with mixing/matching parts next weekend to see what will work & what won't- I'll post more then
I've got a z6 bottom end and a '01 d17a2 bottom end, just trying to figure specs out between all the d17 pistons/head cc's/compression heights/etc (ie-dx/lx,ex,gx,etc)... if anyone has these or has access to these specs, it would help tremendously! Please let me know
A few things I DO know for fact about '01+ d17's:
dx/lx is D17A1, NON-vtec
ex is D17A2, VTEC (i-vtec?) compression is 9.9:1
hx is ??
gx is ??
'01 d17 block is completely different design from older d's- heads will not interchange, motor mounts are different, most older d-parts won't fit the newer blocks and vice-versa
ALL '01+ d17s use the same crank- 94.4mm stroke
ALL '01+ d17 rods are thinner at the crank end so you have to use d17 rods or have rods machined
dx/lx/ex/hx use same rods, gx 4-dr uses different rods (dunno why different yet)
dx/lx use same pistons, ex and gx are different
suposedly the d17 oil pump drive is larger so you would have to use the d17 oil pump
hopefully i will have some time to screw around with mixing/matching parts next weekend to see what will work & what won't- I'll post more then


