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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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I know this doesn't belong here, but this forum is my home and the only real one I check here at H-T on a regular basis.

My '90 Integra died today a block from my house with 1/4 million miles on the odometer.

The ****** died and won't turn over at all. Everything electrical works and I just hear the ******* starter spinning, but the bitch won't turn over.

The only thing I can think of is that the oil was low (it has the normal cam seal problem that I hadn't gotten around to fixing). I hadn't driven it in two days and when I checked the level it didn't look like it had much if any in there, but it was ******* sailing two days before with no problems. I'm really hoping it didn't seize on me.

Anyone else have any ideas on what might've went wrong.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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wait...

you said you checked the oil but it looked like there was none

and you wonder why it died?

congrats, you have a 400lb paperweight.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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The ****** died and won't turn over at all. Everything electrical works and I just hear the ******* starter spinning, but the bitch won't turn over.

Anyone else have any ideas on what might've went wrong.
sound like you have some broken teeth on the flywheel

does the starter spin freely...not making conntact with the flywheel at all?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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sound like you have some broken teeth on the flywheel

does the starter spin freely...not making conntact with the flywheel at all?

Yes, starter spins freely.

wait...
you said you checked the oil but it looked like there was none

and you wonder why it died?

congrats, you have a 400lb paperweight.

There was some, just not much. I put oil in the car and check the level all the time because of the cam seal leaking and I just put some in a week ago, so I doubt it went dry since then. I HOPE not, but with the Civic in the shop and this car broken, looks like I'm taking public transportation....
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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try to push start that sucker
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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heh, I will tommorow. Just figured I'd see if anyone else could come up with a definite idea on what they think is wrong, cause I can't, so I know if I need to have this car towed to the shop or the junkyard.


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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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well if the starter spins but it dosent crank you could have a busted starter solenoid or broken flywheel teeth (very unlikley)

push start her.
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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its prob the fylwheel
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 11:01 PM
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Gonna try to push start her tommorow and go get a new starter. Any way to tell if its seized besides ripping off the head?
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Old Mar 27, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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well if the starter spins but it dosent crank you could have a busted starter solenoid or broken flywheel teeth (very unlikley)

push start her.
If he hears the starter spinning, you use it would be a solenoid? Wouldnt it not make any noise if a solenoid was burnt out?
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 12:12 AM
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keep us posted, i'm anxious to see if your quarter-mil honda comes back to life!
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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well if the starter spins but does not engage it is the starter, it is rare that a flywheel teeht just snap or break off, sounds like a starter.

but then again neither the starter nor flywheel would cause the car to just die...
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 04:11 AM
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Gonna try to push start her tommorow and go get a new starter. Any way to tell if its seized besides ripping off the head?
Bar the engine over.....

I'm putting my bets on the starter.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 04:34 AM
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You say that the starter spins but the engine doesn't turn over? sounds like the flywheel or starter pinion gear. If the engine IS turning over do all the usual checks; fuel, spark, etc.

Mike
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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well if the starter spins but does not engage it is the starter, it is rare that a flywheel teeht just snap or break off, sounds like a starter.

but then again neither the starter nor flywheel would cause the car to just die...
thats true a starter or a flywheel would not cause the car to die...maybe he stalled

ive seen many flywheels with broken teeth...its more common then people think...it could also just be the pinoin tooth on the starter that broke....let us know
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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I might've stalled. I was busy trying not to veer into the giant SUV on the side of the road when it died.

No pop-starting. Engine chugged a TINY bit but wouldn't start. Should I still give the starter a go?
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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check to see if your electronic fuel pump is working. Usually near the backseet area.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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It works, I can hear it pump when I turn the key.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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are you SURE the key was in the ON position when u pushed it? try again but go faster
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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I suspect that your timing belt is broken, did the car just suddenly die? what you can do is open up the oil cap, and crank the engine and if the cams and valves not moving, you have a broken timing belt. Other thing that could be bad is your distributor. But from what you stated, I suspect the timing belt. If you engine is seized your car won't even crank.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Belts are fine. The cam seal is ******* ridiculous when I try to start it it just sit there and vibrates like a ****...which just leads me to believe that it might've really seized, but I don't know. I'm gonna yank out the starter when its nice out again (it was raining all day today) and take a look at the teeth on it and the flywheel to see if thats the problem, and perhaps give it one more go at pop starting the car.

The shop my Civic is at should have the car finished tommorow or sometime nextweek so hopefully I won't be without a car for long.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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The whole post an only 1 person said the timing belt, hello a seized motor doesn't spin therefor neither will the crank. Well I think it is either the timing belt or the dist. I would check those 2 first. When you crank it does the crank pulley spin? If so then your starter is fine.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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hehe, that's what I mean. if your belts spin, that doesn't mean anything, since the starter will spin the crank, and the crank will make the belts spin. YOU'll have to take off the oil cap and see if the cams are spinning or not!
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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The belts I can see spin, and the camshafts as well, so scratch that.

Thanks for the help guys, I really appreciate it.
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Old Mar 28, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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if you think it is "siezed" get a 17mm socket and turn the crank bolt. depending on the rims you have you shouldn't even have to jack up the car... if you can't turn it then it's siezed if you can then you know it's not... does it make a grinding noise or just a kinna clicking noise when you try to start it? how do you know the starter is "spinning". (i've never heard it just spin before) good luck
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