For those of you with paint oxidation - klasse
Just wanted to share my experience and help others that have the same problem.
Well, my car is over 9 years old and needless to say the previous owner didnt keep up with the car, and being milano red (notorious for paint fade) doesnt help it any more either. There's oxidation all over the hood and roof so I tried out some Klasse All-In-One. The stuff comes in 2 bottles -- one is an acrylic/polish and the other is a sealant glaze. The results are pretty impressive imo.
Here's the hood on my gsr. I did a split line, treated and untreated, so you can see the difference. You can actually see the reflection of a window on the portion that is treated
This is just with one pass of the klasse stuff. Depending on how severe the oxidation, apparently the more passes you do the better the results. hth
Well, my car is over 9 years old and needless to say the previous owner didnt keep up with the car, and being milano red (notorious for paint fade) doesnt help it any more either. There's oxidation all over the hood and roof so I tried out some Klasse All-In-One. The stuff comes in 2 bottles -- one is an acrylic/polish and the other is a sealant glaze. The results are pretty impressive imo.
Here's the hood on my gsr. I did a split line, treated and untreated, so you can see the difference. You can actually see the reflection of a window on the portion that is treated
This is just with one pass of the klasse stuff. Depending on how severe the oxidation, apparently the more passes you do the better the results. hth
That's awesome. I am about to pick up a Milano Red Coupe. Does this effect the clear coat at all? I would like to clay bar the car, use this Klasse stuff, and then wax it. Do you think I need the wax afterwards or just the Klasse stuff?
Klasse is an acrylic polymer sealant. It is much more durriable and lasts longer than any carnauba wax.
It can also be layered, each layer adding more protection and a better shine. Most find that 3-5 layers looks incredible. Sealants tend to give off a different type of shine than carnauba wax, which is why some people choose to top off 3-5 layers of klasse with a quality carnauba. The result is a shine and appearance that mixes the great shine charectoristics of both mediums.
So adding a layer of wax is optional, its more of a cosmetic step at this point rather than protection.
It can also be layered, each layer adding more protection and a better shine. Most find that 3-5 layers looks incredible. Sealants tend to give off a different type of shine than carnauba wax, which is why some people choose to top off 3-5 layers of klasse with a quality carnauba. The result is a shine and appearance that mixes the great shine charectoristics of both mediums.
So adding a layer of wax is optional, its more of a cosmetic step at this point rather than protection.
styleteg pretty much summed it up.
basically, the sealant glaze can be layered but it takes time - depending on the weather about ~24hrs before you can put on the next coat. Once you are satisfied with the number of layers of sealant, then you can coat on top of that some carnuba wax stuff and it makes it even more wet/shiney looking. The great thing about it is that the klasse stuff lasts roughly 6 months with just regular washes.
basically, the sealant glaze can be layered but it takes time - depending on the weather about ~24hrs before you can put on the next coat. Once you are satisfied with the number of layers of sealant, then you can coat on top of that some carnuba wax stuff and it makes it even more wet/shiney looking. The great thing about it is that the klasse stuff lasts roughly 6 months with just regular washes.
Klasse is an acrylic polymer sealant. It is much more durriable and lasts longer than any carnauba wax.
It can also be layered, each layer adding more protection and a better shine. Most find that 3-5 layers looks incredible. Sealants tend to give off a different type of shine than carnauba wax, which is why some people choose to top off 3-5 layers of klasse with a quality carnauba. The result is a shine and appearance that mixes the great shine charectoristics of both mediums.
So adding a layer of wax is optional, its more of a cosmetic step at this point rather than protection.
It can also be layered, each layer adding more protection and a better shine. Most find that 3-5 layers looks incredible. Sealants tend to give off a different type of shine than carnauba wax, which is why some people choose to top off 3-5 layers of klasse with a quality carnauba. The result is a shine and appearance that mixes the great shine charectoristics of both mediums.
So adding a layer of wax is optional, its more of a cosmetic step at this point rather than protection.
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i have oxidation too. i notice that after i wax, with regular turtle wax, its all gone and looks really nice but the oxidation comes back in like 2 weeks!! will this last much longer?
which one should i get? http://www.premiumautocare.com/klasse.html
[Modified by DI9ITAL, 8:26 PM 3/24/2003]
which one should i get? http://www.premiumautocare.com/klasse.html
[Modified by DI9ITAL, 8:26 PM 3/24/2003]
the klasse stuff supposedly lasts about 6month or more before you need to redo it.
You want the Klasse All-In-One polish and sealant (they work together). That site sounds like they are selling the polish and sealant seperately? weird, they should come as a package.
maybe take a look at these instead:
http://www.properautocare.com/kla-16.html
http://www.autogeek.net/klasseallinone.html
You want the Klasse All-In-One polish and sealant (they work together). That site sounds like they are selling the polish and sealant seperately? weird, they should come as a package.
maybe take a look at these instead:
http://www.properautocare.com/kla-16.html
http://www.autogeek.net/klasseallinone.html
i have oxidation too. i notice that after i wax, with regular turtle wax, its all gone and looks really nice but the oxidation comes back in like 2 weeks!! will this last much longer?
which one should i get? http://www.premiumautocare.com/klasse.html
[Modified by DI9ITAL, 8:26 PM 3/24/2003]
which one should i get? http://www.premiumautocare.com/klasse.html
[Modified by DI9ITAL, 8:26 PM 3/24/2003]
I couldnt find it at any local auto store, so i bought it online. it ran me about 30$ for the AIO and some microfiber cloths and some pads.
tilt: did you order that stuff online or can you get that stuff at a parts store
(autozone, pepboys)??
(autozone, pepboys)??
I have been using the mother's gold 3 step clean, polish and wax products. Great results on the oxidation on my white teg. really brighted up the colors after the first application.
I've compared the results to the meguires products and the results werent as profound.
I've compared the results to the meguires products and the results werent as profound.
most of the time you can only find this stuff at online detailing stores. This stuff is amazing. I washed with dawn to strip my old wax, clayed with mothers clay bar, re-washed with meguirs gold class, applied klasse aio, then over the next fives days i added klasse sealant glaze, then topped it off with p21s carnuba wax. My car has never shined better! Last week one of my friends asked how much my new paint job was. I would post pics but my camera sux. They sell tons of stuff at http://www.premiumautocare.com.
Any before / after shots of the entire car?
I just waxed my white Eg today. On most parts still feels as if there is no wax due to the oxidation. The roof has it real bad!! I used Mothers wax today and probably need to look into some oxidation remover.
I just waxed my white Eg today. On most parts still feels as if there is no wax due to the oxidation. The roof has it real bad!! I used Mothers wax today and probably need to look into some oxidation remover.
I did mine few weeks ago, here is Before and after.
more pics are here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=510075
more pics are here
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=510075
Great post. My car is 8 years old, and Granada Black Pearl ... the hood and roof looks about 10 times worst than Tilts.
I am in the same boat as the other guy, I can get it looking ok again for about 3-4 days. I am very excited about this Klasse stuff.
Do you guys wax by hand, or with an orbital buffer?
I am in the same boat as the other guy, I can get it looking ok again for about 3-4 days. I am very excited about this Klasse stuff.
Do you guys wax by hand, or with an orbital buffer?
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