what brand and size tires does the jdm type r come with?

 

Not sure on the brand but size is 215/45/16

 

yes, the come with the Bridgestone RE010's

 

Yep, like Boba said, Bridgestone RE010

George, are you there, you lucky....


[Modified by TypeRJason, 8:14 AM 6/15/2001]

 

Where can I get a set of these tires besides online. I am in Georgia and Butler tire here recommended me to buy Toyo FZ4, Dunlop W10, or Pirelli P7000 in 205/45/16's for my 16x7 wheels on the Type-R.

 

Don't buy the Dunlop W10. I've seen an R with mugen mf-10 rims and Dunlop W10 and got into a horrific accident b/c his tires didn't grip when it was suppose to. The accident most likely could've been avoided if he had crapy rims and great tires. eg P-zero or 032R. But that guy was pulling some crazy moves tho. The P7000 is a great choice as long as it is not the all season ones. Of course P-zero and 032R would be better, but they cost more and i'm not sure whether they come in your size.

 

The RE010 tire in the 215/45ZR16 size is designed specifically to go on the FRONT of the NSX. The belts are biased specifically to be used as a front (front left or front right) tire, and are biased differently from the 245/40ZR17 size which was designed for the NSX rear. Similarly, the compound is different in the front vs the rear. There's more information about the OEM NSX tires (which include these same sizes in the Yokohama A022 as well as the RE010) at http://www.nsxprime.com/FAQ/TireWheel/tiretech.htm
Some folks have tried these tires on the ITR with poor results and have reported this here. Unfortunately, I can't find the earlier posts because you can't do a search using a three-letter word like "NSX".

If Honda Japan specs the RE010 tire in this size, I THINK it's probably available there in a different model that is not corner-specific like the NSX tire is. But I think it's probably tough (if not impossible) to get that model RE010 in North America.

I would recommend using a different tire, one that was designed to be used at either end of a car.

 

Yes. The tires that are sold in Japan for the Type R are NOT the same as the ones sold in North America for the NSX. There's a specific designation on them that is different. There were photos in the earlier topic of different models of RE010. But I'll be damned if I can find the topic, since you can't search on RE010 or NSX.

Yes. The same design characteristics for the 205/50ZR15 are true of the 215/45ZR16. When you buy them from the Tire Rack, you buy a left tire or a right tire. Those are NSX-specific, front tires. Other folks have reported problems with them. (But I can't search for THOSE posts, either. )




[Modified by nsxtasy, 9:45 PM 6/16/2001]

 

From the NSX FAQ (and the same information is true for the Bridgestone RE010 as well as the Yokohama A022, since they were both designed to meet the NSX design requirements):

"[Michael F. Hollander, Yokohama Tire Specialist] Here's some additional information from our Technical Department:

The compound of the front and rear NSX tires are slightly different in grip level. In addition to the compound, there are numerous construction and tread profile differences between the tires. These differences are necessary to work with the design of the suspension to give the target handling requested by the vehicle maker.

UTQG tradwear ratings are based on a tires wear performance against a standard monitoring tire chosen by the US Government. The manufacturer chooses the exact rating to use based on testing data received for the compound used. Although the grip level of the compounds used for the front and rear of the NSX is different, the result of the test against the course monitoring tire were relatively close. As the ratings used by manufacturers is normally conservative, the tires could be rated the same to avoid confusion for the uninformed customer.

Compounds can be made today to have different grip levels but be relatively close in wear characteristics. Although the grip level of the front and rear tires is different, ti is not a large change from one to the other. The request from Acura was to help stabilize the car during high speed cornering and assist with the development of a slight understeer condition. To accomplish this, the rear tires are constructed to add a "toe in" effect in the rear as well as generate more grip in the rear than in the front to give "understeer". The compound grip change to make this happen was small, resulting in relatively close UTQG ratings."

It's possible that you may get satisfactory results with the NSX tires - in which case hey, that's great - but at a minimum, you should consider these characteristics before deciding to try them out.

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George, are your 16" RE010 tires "left tires" and "right tires"? (If the tire is both rotational and asymmetrical, then it is intended to be used on only one side of the car - the left side or the right side. It's rotational if it has an arrow on the sidewall noting the direction of rotation. It's asymmetrical if the sidewall says "side facing outwards" or "side facing inwards".) The NSX tires are rotational and asymmetrical, so they are either left tires or right tires. The stock tires for the USDM Type R are RE010 in size 195/55ZR15 and they are rotational, but symmetrical (NOT asymmetrical).

I strongly suspect that the JDM Type R, too, comes with tires that are rotational but symmetrical. Is there anyone here in Japan with a JDM Type R with JDM RE010 tires on it? If so, I'd like to ask whether you have left tires and right tires (see above).

 

Don't we have any members in Japan who can help with this? Any one with Japan contacts who can help. This discussion goes on and on, but with out any real info regarding the Bridgestones. I'm not confident that what we apply to the Yokos we can by default apply to the RE010s.

Again I ask, how is putting NSX fronts on a FF ITR different than putting Pirelli P Zero system fronts on a FF as recommended by Pirelli? Does this have any relevance on the NSX RE101? Hell if I know.

any one, any one....

 

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George, I guess we're the only two who care about this. Coincedently, we're the only two who have no complaints about the 215/45/16 RE010s.

 

im interested too because i want to get these tires if i get 16" wheels


[Modified by ITR 01-0557, 9:35 PM 6/18/2001]

 

How do these tires compare vs. Pirelli Pzero's ?

1. Yokohama A022H 215/45/16 Treadwear 120
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 215/45/16 Treadwear 220

Anyone know? I'm not sure which ones are better. I thought the Michelin's were better but I see the treadwear is in the 200's.