updated pics of cold air duct in bumper
update from this post: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=443182
I dont have the time to fabricate the carbon fiber or fiberglass that I wanted to make.
So I bought a duct from i/o port racing in lafayette, ca.
http://www.ioportracing.com/
It is about 15 minutes from my house, and they had it in stock for $20.
I had already dremeled out a big hole before. I had to take out even more plastic this time around. if you look at the bottom two pics, you can notice the difference in the size of the hole
this is the before picture of how big the hole is.
here is the duct un-molested
next was a matter of triming the duct to follow the curve of the bumper
I was able to trim the duct while it was attached to the bumper.
there are 2 bolts that attach the duct to the bumper that are hidden that are on top. then there is a zip tie that attached the duct to the radiator support for a firmer placement.
now it just needs some trim to go around the duct to hide the cut marks from the dremel and the gap between the duct and bumber.
[Modified by Bob-DC2, 4:08 PM 3/21/2003]
I dont have the time to fabricate the carbon fiber or fiberglass that I wanted to make.
So I bought a duct from i/o port racing in lafayette, ca.
http://www.ioportracing.com/
It is about 15 minutes from my house, and they had it in stock for $20.
I had already dremeled out a big hole before. I had to take out even more plastic this time around. if you look at the bottom two pics, you can notice the difference in the size of the hole
this is the before picture of how big the hole is.
here is the duct un-molested
next was a matter of triming the duct to follow the curve of the bumper
I was able to trim the duct while it was attached to the bumper.
there are 2 bolts that attach the duct to the bumper that are hidden that are on top. then there is a zip tie that attached the duct to the radiator support for a firmer placement.
now it just needs some trim to go around the duct to hide the cut marks from the dremel and the gap between the duct and bumber.
[Modified by Bob-DC2, 4:08 PM 3/21/2003]
So after all that hard work, days, weeks and maybe even months of planing, trips to hardware shops, cut front bumper, time and money invested.....does it make a difference? I'm working a similar project with a 5th gen civic. Luckily some 5th gen models came with a port used for fog lights, but can be used as an air duct opening.
I had the same concept for my civic. I used the bottom protion of a Mustand 5.0 air box, and hid it behind the grill. It has a 4"outlet on the side, that I ran ducting from to my intake. works great, and its nice and hidden
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yea it looks really out of place in the front of the bumper like that, are you sure you coulent have put the duct in the grill somewhere?
but i think if u paint it white and clean up the cutting lines, it will look nice
but i think if u paint it white and clean up the cutting lines, it will look nice
yeah, i know it looks kinda ghetto rigged.
yes it makes a substantial difference. I think with the heat shield cold air and big duct they all add up. by them selves it is not much though.
I know i need to paint it. and from far away it doenst look all that bad.
I still have more effort to put into it to make it look nicer.
I was just focusing on getting it working and making more power, vs how it looks.
my car is going for cornering/braking accelarting ability over looks. asthetics are last priorty
yes it makes a substantial difference. I think with the heat shield cold air and big duct they all add up. by them selves it is not much though.
I know i need to paint it. and from far away it doenst look all that bad.
I still have more effort to put into it to make it look nicer.
I was just focusing on getting it working and making more power, vs how it looks.
my car is going for cornering/braking accelarting ability over looks. asthetics are last priorty
Looks like ****.. but I like its purpose. I kinda have the same thing for my car. Bought dryer duct for $10 at home depot and have it sucking cool air from the front of the lower opening.
Not to impose an your post, but it put an ideal in my head. What do you guys think about running something like that, but off of one of your vents from your car ( if you have as). In the summer you could just turn on the ac and it would be pushed straight to your intake. It sounds like a good ideal to me especially when your racing on a 100 degree day. Any thoughts on this ideal
here is mine.. kind of like your but in the grill..
Not to impose an your post, but it put an ideal in my head. What do you guys think about running something like that, but off of one of your vents from your car ( if you have as). In the summer you could just turn on the ac and it would be pushed straight to your intake. It sounds like a good ideal to me especially when your racing on a 100 degree day. Any thoughts on this ideal
it is bad for your a/c to be on when you are revving high. it wears the a/c motor out fast.
any benefits with the a/c would be offset by the drawing of hp by using the a/c motor.
the reason why I didnt put it behind my grill is for 2 reasons.
-you cant get 4" ducting to fit
-you have one big 90* bend when doing that
other than that, it is a good way of getting cold air into a duct. there is probably more air flowing in the radiator area than on the bumber where mine is.
You've got the right idea! Rule of thumb is every drop of 10 degrees results in 1 HP. I would take a lesson from Honda powered CART cars and install a mesh screen over the intake port just to keep the big stuff from geting into the filter... you are using a good quality high-flow filter right?
Also, depending on the weather where you live you may want to incorporate a bypass valve in the upper intake tract to avoid water ingestion and resulting engine failure. A little bit of vaporized water doesn't hurt (they used water fog injection in P-51 Mustangs in World War II as a power boost. Water, when heated expands at a greater rate than fuel) but if you get into big puddles... expensive ouch! Check out AEM CAI & bypass valves. Some say it isn't required but again how much is an engine replacement worth?? That's my $0.02 worth.
Also, depending on the weather where you live you may want to incorporate a bypass valve in the upper intake tract to avoid water ingestion and resulting engine failure. A little bit of vaporized water doesn't hurt (they used water fog injection in P-51 Mustangs in World War II as a power boost. Water, when heated expands at a greater rate than fuel) but if you get into big puddles... expensive ouch! Check out AEM CAI & bypass valves. Some say it isn't required but again how much is an engine replacement worth?? That's my $0.02 worth.
i don't think it looks good but it will serve the purpose i guess... i would watch out for puddles and **** like that. i would have done something like the guy did in that red integra, now thats MUCH better, good job gsrtyper
here is mine.. kind of like your but in the grill..
Thomas
When it rains, I would keep a rag and a rubber band in my glove box and put that over the outlet part of the scoop in the engine bay. Like the other guy said, u don't want a tsunami of water rushing up that piping.


