No real info on this in the archives.

Setup Stock B18b ( I/H/E of course)

Just want to drop in a cam/valvespring/retainer setup

what is the best to get? Dont care about idle, just want lots of midrange

 

I like the 402's and 403's. idle is not too bad with the 403's. have not tried crane.

 

any one know how much a a full cam set up with 403's would run? with valvesprings and retainers...?


[Modified by UnionCity LS, 8:12 PM 3/19/2003]

 

Quoted from BlueTeg on Team-Integra.net

I know a few of you guys were interested in what type of numbers the Crower 403 cams made in an LS. I finally got them put in this weekend. Here are the results:

150 whp @ 6500 rpms
125 lb/ft tq @ 5300 rpms



Baseline Run = aem cai, comptech header, 2.25" carsound cat, comptech exhaust = 132 whp, 121 tq
Dyno Run 007 = same setup as above + Crower 403 cams, Crower valve springs, B&M fpr set at 48psi, aem cam gears (intake +1, exhaust -1), SAFC


Here is a dyno plot of the cams untuned vs. tuned



Baseline Run-untuned = i/h/c/e, Crower 403's, Crower valve springs, B&M fpr set at 48 psi, timing at 16 degrees, aem cam gears (0,0) = 148 whp, 123 tq
Final Run-tuned = same setup as above except: aem cam gears (intake +1, exhaust -1), SAFC tuning = 151 whp, 126 tq

The guy who tuned it did an excellent job with flatening out that nasy dip in the power curve that you can see from 4300-5200. It dyno'd pretty well, powerwise, without any tuning what so ever putting out 148 whp. The guys that worked at the shop said I could have hit 155whp, but I told the tuner that I was more interested in fixing that midrange dip than boosting the peak power and asked if he could start by widening the LSA, he said no prob. And that he could probably pull out more power in both the midrange and top end. He didn't mess with the fuel psi at all, widened the LSA once, and the rest of the runs he just kept toying with the SAFC to get better power.

My only beef with this mod, was/is the idle quality. When they initially started the car it sounded like poop!!! ~If these things are supposed to have a smoother idle than the 404's, I'd hate to see what those things idle like!~ They toyed with the fpr and safc to get it idle smoother, but its still a little lopey when I come to a stop. Hopefully I can fix this myself today with the help of StyleTeg's idle adjustment article.

 

whats the current idea of how easily these break?

 

Yes, you do care about idle. You may not know it now, but youll get really annoyed soon enough if your car wont stay running at lights. Ohh, and youll want cam gears to go with your cam setup.
gmoore

 

the car will go from my driveway to the track or autocross course, then back to my driveway
ill see about 15 stop lights a week in it, and ill just set idle high

cam gears good call