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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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is there anyone who has successfully done a h22a swap into a 6th gen accord? i'm in the process and need some technical advise regaurding the immobilizer/perfect ecu to run....(hondata, stock, US spec lude, or J-spec lude ecu???) the engine it self is j-spec and until the swap is complete (with all the bugs worked out) i'll be running my stock parts...trany, axles, harness, ecu, etc. all and any help is greatly appreciated!
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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do not run accord tranny it is slooooooooooow as hell. do yourself a favor and goahead and pick up a h22 tranny
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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'soon to be boosted 6g acc h22"

i think someone is soon to be posting pics too
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 08:52 PM
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so you have a jdm h22 in your 6th gen accord? if so, what did you do about the immobillzer system and what ecu did you end up going with?
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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i have a jdm h22a in my 98 coupe. i converted to obd1 and am currently using a p28 with stage 2 hondata, or you can just use the p13 that comes with the jdm h22 so that takes car of the immobilizer. if you want to keep the car obd2, which is unwise, IMO, because you are limited when it comes to tuning, you can use a 96 h22 ecu to get around the immobilizer since it was installed until the 97 ludes came out.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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doesn't converting to obd1 in an obd2 car pose a problem when it comes to smog tests? whaddya guys do to get around it besides paying off the auto shop?
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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i have a h22a4 usdm w/ 2k h22 tranny.i am running a skunk p28 and a vafc
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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i live in florida, they did away with smog testing back in 99 or something like that.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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how much did you pay for your hondata stage 2? and, did you convert your car over to obd1? if so, what all was involved and did you have to use another harness other than your stock? i want to go obd1 but will have any effect on my immonbillizer? last, but not least you did use your stock axles, half shaft, and shift linkage?
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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i got my hondata stage 2 from the Hondasaver GB's that Rocket and stuff had on here a while back, i think it was 259 shipped...i got a obd2-obd1 conversion harness from blown90hatch, an HT member,. it basically plug and play when you have the obd1 ecu and the conversion harness. make sure you get the right one though, the ones for the 00 gsr is the one you want, i think, its been a while so i dont remember. since you are using obd1 ecu, it will disable your immobilizer since that chip is on the stock ecu.

i had an automatic before and converted to manual, had to buy the accord halfshaft, and a driver side manual axle and an accord v6 passenger side axle (i think...not sure what my friend told me cause he went through 4 sets of axle combinations to get it to work out on the auto to manual swap),but they're all accord axles. i've heard of others with manual 6th gen. accords just using all manual accord axles. f and h transmission are swappable so im assuming that you would be able to use the stock shift linkage also if you already have a manual.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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i used the stock accord axels and halfshaft they all bolted up fine i had to rewire the distributor because i used a usdm motor {external coil) make sure to use all of the accord mounts, the lude mounts will not work without mod.
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Old Mar 19, 2003 | 08:58 PM
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by the way, thanks everyone for all of your help. i want this swap to be simple and fun without any (expensive) surprises. this is what i have so far: 00 accord coupe lx 5spd 4cyl. just purchased a jdm h22a (engine only, no pulleys or harness, but it does could with injectors and the i/e manifolds). i'll be using my stock trany, harness (will my stock harness injector clips work with the h22 injectors???), shift linkage, axles, half shaft, motor mounts, pulleys like ac, ps, and alt (not sure if they will bolt up, anyone know???). other than having to buy an ecu such as a hondata and an obd2 to obd1 conv harness, what else should i expect or need to purchase? eventually, i'll upgrade to a lsd trany but would like to get the motor in and the bugs worked out first, if you know what i mean.
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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"do not run accord tranny it is slooooooooooow as hell. do yourself a favor and goahead and pick up a h22 tranny"

dont know about this one...if I am gonna boost the h22 i would keep the accord tranny
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Old Mar 20, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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is the H22 motor a direct drop in for the 6th gen?
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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by the way, thanks everyone for all of your help. i want this swap to be simple and fun without any (expensive) surprises. this is what i have so far: 00 accord coupe lx 5spd 4cyl. just purchased a jdm h22a (engine only, no pulleys or harness, but it does could with injectors and the i/e manifolds). i'll be using my stock trany, harness (will my stock harness injector clips work with the h22 injectors???), shift linkage, axles, half shaft, motor mounts, pulleys like ac, ps, and alt (not sure if they will bolt up, anyone know???). other than having to buy an ecu such as a hondata and an obd2 to obd1 conv harness, what else should i expect or need to purchase? eventually, i'll upgrade to a lsd trany but would like to get the motor in and the bugs worked out first, if you know what i mean.
since you have a 5 speed already just use all accord mounts. if you want to use stock tranny you can but its not recommended unless you're planning to go turbo, stock axles and halfshaft is fine. i had to use a custom powersteering line but someone on this board have said that they used the accord powersteering pump and mount and a little bit of elbow grease to make it work (i guess if you try hard enough to you bolt it together...any way you do it you'll have powersteering). you'll have to custom the driver mount to get it to work so just use an engine lift to hold the motor into the bay and bolt in the other mounts loosely to see what you'll have to do. i'm not sure if your pulleys will bolt up since my motor came with pulleys. the way i see it is that you should get the tranny now if you are planning on it, unless you have to save up for it, it will be more convient since you are already doing the swap. plus with any tranny, you will get the same bugs if there are any to work out.

my driver side mount looks something like this (not a picture of my acutal mount, this picture came out better than mine did so im using it). i've heard you might be able to swap over the f23 mount attached to the block onto the h22 block also, if you do this, it might just be a straight drop in but i havent seen or heard anyone do this yet, just people thinking about doing it:



my custom powersteering line looks like this:



with the line i used the prelude mount and powersteering pump.

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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 06:28 AM
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is the H22 motor a direct drop in for the 6th gen?
almost...see picture in the above post for driver side mount..
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Old Mar 21, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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new problems rise! i finally got my motor up at my job (acura dealership) and pulled my car in the shop to compare wiring harness, engine mount positions, sensors, etc. the jdm h22a is obd1 (out of a 95), but my car is a 2000 4cyl vtec. i noticed that the injector clips are different, as well as the distributor conector. i found two broken senors (IAT, which i have an extra one and the throttle position which i do not have an extra!!!) can i swap the TPS sensor out with my stock on to it? the jdm h22 tps is bolted on with star shaped bits. also, will i have to buy an obd1 prelude harness? so many differences in the connectors i'm lost...please help!
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 06:59 AM
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and another thing, will i need a resistor block for the injectors?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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"areyouasian" or "6gaccordh22" which wiring harness did yall use? (your stock accord or the one that came with the h22, mine is cut on my h22)?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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stock accord harness . but you have to do a little wiring of the dist., you also have to swap the egr valve because the prelude is vac. controlled. it is an easy procedure. there are some things that you will not have on the obd1 motor.such as knock sensor and i think a crank sensor. you will definitely have to use an obd1 ecu w/ an adpt harness from 00-01 gsr


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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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what did you do about connecting the obd2 injector clips on to the h22 obd1 injectors? do you have a pix or know the wiring diagram for the distrib? what other wiring mods did you run into?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:28 AM
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i had the obd2 h22a4 the injectors pluged right in . you can just swap the connectors over. resistor box should not be needed. you could also check on ebay . someone usually has some obd2 injectors from a prelude
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:30 AM
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kewl, i'm on ebay right now! what about the distrib wiring???? do you know how or where i can find out how to? did your motor come with pulleys already on it?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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where is cordova tn ?
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Old Mar 22, 2003 | 07:32 AM
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