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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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Default 99-00 Si Front Sway on 96-00 Hatch

I did a search on this topic, and it looks like it's been discussed many times, but I can't seem to find a definitive parts list. I already have the sway bar, sway bar brackets/endlinks, forks, and LCA's. Do I re-use the same bolts as on the stock setup or do I need to buy new bolts as well? Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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mounts different. More cost effective to go with a suspension techniques kit
iv done the research
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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mounts different. More cost effective to go with a suspension techniques kit
iv done the research
You are wrong. I have one on my car and it mounted right up.

The only bolt that is different is the long bolt that goes on the bottom of the fork. You will need the si fork and fork bolt for that. Other than that, you need the four 12mm(I think) bolts that mount the D-brackets to the subframe.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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mounts different. More cost effective to go with a suspension techniques kit
iv done the research
You are wrong. I have one on my car and it mounted right up.

The only bolt that is different is the long bolt that goes on the bottom of the fork. You will need the si fork and fork bolt for that. Other than that, you need the four 12mm(I think) bolts that mount the D-brackets to the subframe.
he is exactly right. I also have this bar on my car, you can reuse all your bolts and mounts except for the lower shock fork bolt. Parts wise you will need the Front sway bar, endlinks, shock forks, and LCA's. later


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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Are you guys talking about part #15 in the diagram below? If so, anyone have the part number?



Also, what is the part number for the bolts to mount the d-brackets on the subframe?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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what do you need the SI fork for?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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You need the fork to mount to the Si LCA.

That picture isn't acurate as it doesn't display the correct forks or LCA.

I'm not quite sure how long the bolt for the fork is. But I needed to get a couple extra, so I called Honda. The length that they gave me was way to short. So, I ended up going to NAPA to find the correct size. And as far as I know, everything is working okay.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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I did a search on this topic, and it looks like it's been discussed many times, but I can't seem to find a definitive parts list. I already have the sway bar, sway bar brackets/endlinks, forks, and LCA's. Do I re-use the same bolts as on the stock setup or do I need to buy new bolts as well? Any help would be appreciated.
after seeing the way that suspension tech mounts , theres no way i would have that on my car .
Your best option IMO (which i also have on my EK ) is going with the SI 99-00 front sway bar which is 26mm
you will need the SI forks(with bolts ) , front LCA and the sway bar brackets and bolts and also endlinks ...
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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yes you need to get the SI bolts....grr...i bought a CTR sway setup, and it came with bar, LCA's, brackets, and sway bar bolts....i thought that was all i needed to install, so i went to try to install and found out i needed to get the SI/CTR shock forks....so i went to go get those, and again i tried to install, but this time i needed to get the SI shock fork bolts...so now i got those, and i will attempt to do the install this weekend...does anyone have any tips on doing the install?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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I did this setup on my 96 ek, and it makes a big different on the handling of course. Any question Pm me..
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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yup you need bolt #16 in that pic. don't expect it on the first try. it took honda 3 orders of hte same part number to get mine

the si bolt is on the right the stock one on the left
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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yup you need bolt #16 in that pic. don't expect it on the first try. it took honda 3 orders of hte same part number to get mine
i think that is bolt #18, bolt #16 is the bolt for the top of the shock forks, which tightens the shock onto the fork. kinda hard to tell because the picture is kinda blurry.
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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You will need part #18, here is a clearer pic
90183-SH3-000 BOLT, FLANGE (12X109) $6.14

You need to use SI forks becuase the LCA is wider at that spot.


This is, IMO, the best setup for front Swaybars in EK civics. Alternatively, you can get the 22 mm setup from any non hatchback civic. All you will need is the swaybar, the LCA's and endlinks brackets etc.

I would stay away from ST swaybars. I know of a few people that after getting their rear subframes torn or completely ripped off of their cars using ST swaybars, ST was of no help at all.

I suggest using San Leandro Honda for diagrams, they are much clearer as you can see and they also give ACTUAL Honda part numbers!!!
http://slhondaparts.com/


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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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Default Re: 99-00 Si Front Sway on 96-00 Hatch (tonyXcom)

wow, thats a lot cleaner than the other picture....thanks!
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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I am about to undergo this install myself, so i need #18 only, not #16?
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Old Mar 17, 2003 | 05:22 PM
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#16 is the same between both shock forks.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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So do I also need four of item #22 as well? Thanks for the help everyone!
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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So do I also need four of item #22 as well? Thanks for the help everyone!
Yes.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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yes you need to get the SI bolts....grr...i bought a CTR sway setup, and it came with bar, LCA's, brackets, and sway bar bolts....i thought that was all i needed to install, so i went to try to install and found out i needed to get the SI/CTR shock forks....so i went to go get those, and again i tried to install, but this time i needed to get the SI shock fork bolts...so now i got those, and i will attempt to do the install this weekend...does anyone have any tips on doing the install?
be patient and TORQUE EVERYTHING DOWN CORRECTLY!
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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be patient and TORQUE EVERYTHING DOWN CORRECTLY!
bah, impact guns work just fine.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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So do I also need four of item #22 as well? Thanks for the help everyone!
Yes.
actually yes if you don't currently have a swaybar, i reused the bolts from my ex swaybar.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:58 PM
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So do I also need four of item #22 as well? Thanks for the help everyone!
Yes.

actually yes if you don't currently have a swaybar, i reused the bolts from my ex swaybar.
Actually, unless he has a civic type r, he doesnt currently have a sway bar on his 96-00 hatch.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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you also need the si front shocks, becuase they're thicker
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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you also need the si front shocks, becuase they're thicker
no they aren't.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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I would stay away from ST swaybars. I know of a few people that after getting their rear subframes torn or completely ripped off of their cars using ST swaybars, ST was of no help at all.
any rear sway over 19mm will have this problem. My Skunk has torn out numerous times, and I have to get it rewelded every time. that why Comptech, King Motorsports, Beaks, SRR (to name a few) have made problems to eliminate this problem by transfering force from the subframe to the lca bolts, or by padding it against high stress (Beaks).
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