15 X 7 Rota - colors, hubcentric...important
Please vote as production choices will be influenced by this.
Pick 1st & 2nd color choices.
Hubcentric per app. or hubcentric rings or not at all.
Thanks.
[Modified by civicrr, 11:47 AM 3/17/2003]
Pick 1st & 2nd color choices.
Hubcentric per app. or hubcentric rings or not at all.
Thanks.
[Modified by civicrr, 11:47 AM 3/17/2003]
You can only vote once.
My pics:
dark silver
silver
I don't really care about hubcentric, but metal rings would be a plus and probably easier to produce than car-specific.
My pics:
dark silver
silver
I don't really care about hubcentric, but metal rings would be a plus and probably easier to produce than car-specific.
hubcentric IMO is critical. I hate messing with those little rings.
1st choice color is gold
(rota has gold available)
2nd is bronze
Evan
-who will need wheels for a honda he is about to purchase
1st choice color is gold
(rota has gold available)2nd is bronze
Evan
-who will need wheels for a honda he is about to purchase
Why is it critical? I never used those rings. Cant make one wheel hubcentric for every car, or just one car.
hubcentric IMO is critical. I hate messing with those little rings.
1st choice color is gold
(rota has gold available)
2nd is bronze
Evan
-who will need wheels for a honda he is about to purchase
1st choice color is gold
(rota has gold available)2nd is bronze
Evan
-who will need wheels for a honda he is about to purchase
Producing hubcentric wheels for each application is probably unrealistic. Having metal rings instead of the usual plastic would be a bonus and +38ET is a must.
Trending Topics
do honda hub bores differ from model to model?
sheesh
and fwiw, if we do have to use those annoying rings, the plastic is fine. I had them on the pig and dareisay my brakes get considerably hotter. the rings have never melted or even stuck.
sheesh
and fwiw, if we do have to use those annoying rings, the plastic is fine. I had them on the pig and dareisay my brakes get considerably hotter. the rings have never melted or even stuck.
The plastic rings that came with the CP-035 on my Prelude cracked, didn't melt though. But 3 out of 4 cracked, and one of those 3 even broke into 2 rings.
I like the aluminum rings that came with the SE37K on my Integra. Now I have the aluminum ones for the CP-035 on my Prelude.
I like the aluminum rings that came with the SE37K on my Integra. Now I have the aluminum ones for the CP-035 on my Prelude.

I would get the rotas in 15x6.5. .5 inches will do nothing for handling and the extra .5 inch outward mass can do alot for the rotaional inertia (aka, slow you down)
For colors
Bronze 1st choice
Gun Metal 2nd
I bought the hubcentric rings, 12 bucks for the set (alljdm.com, the owner Jason is a great guy), have not put them on yet (waiting for the weather to be a tad nicer)
As for what wheels, the Circuit 8's are dead sexy and they are real light.
[Modified by asmallsol, 5:56 PM 3/13/2003]
For colors
Bronze 1st choice
Gun Metal 2nd
I bought the hubcentric rings, 12 bucks for the set (alljdm.com, the owner Jason is a great guy), have not put them on yet (waiting for the weather to be a tad nicer)
As for what wheels, the Circuit 8's are dead sexy and they are real light.
[Modified by asmallsol, 5:56 PM 3/13/2003]
I would get the rotas in 15x6.5. .5 inches will do nothing for handling and the extra .5 inch outward mass can do alot for the rotaional inertia (aka, slow you down)
Dan
not trying to start a huge arguement but it is only .5 inches, not that big of a deal when it comes to contact patch. If your are comparing stock vx wheels to these, your argument would be alot better but 6.5 vs 7 is not much at all. With a proper tire, you would see almost no diffrance.
Very few companys have made Hub -centric wheels. The largest company was BBS and was one of the reasons why their wheels where more expensive then just about everyone elses wheels. One particular wheel would only fit a few cars. This is also why BBS finally did away with making hub-centric wheels (approx.1992-93) and went the way of lessor expensive mass market wheels. Hub-centric is the way to go IMHO. There are a few very good wheel manufacturers out there that still make these wheels, Fikse is a very good example and BBS Motorsport wheels, and we are working with TDM on the PRO2. But you will pay quit a bit more for these wheels.
Very few companys have made Hub -centric wheels. The largest company was BBS and was one of the reasons why their wheels where more expensive then just about everyone elses wheels. One particular wheel would only fit a few cars. This is also why BBS finally did away with making hub-centric wheels (approx.1992-93) and went the way of lessor expensive mass market wheels.
This is why I asked if Hondas have different hub diameters. If they differ, then using hub rings is understandable, but if all Hondas have the same diameter, there is certainly a large enough market to justify having Honda specific wheels.
Evan, I have to think that this is because a wheel with a Subaru offset and bolt-pattern is basically a Subaru-only wheel. They might as well make them hubcentric since there's noone else to sell them to.
SSR wheels in a 4x100 bolt-pattern are not hubcentric.
In this situation, however, there's going to be trade-offs. 4x100 is a popular offset. To use just one example, the Miata uses it. The miata hub bore, however, is slightly smaller than the honda. So... Rota can make a 4x100 wheel hubcentric to Honda, or they can make a wheel that uses insert rings, thus allowing them to sell to anyone. This is a no-brainer for them. I can't help but think that there's some trade-off to demanding hubcentricity. Either 1) the wheels aren't made at all or 2) the price goes up. Please remember that the reason people want these is they're cheap. References to SSR (300), Volk (300), OZ (200), Kinesis (500+), BBS(200+) really have no relevance. I guess my point is people aren't sitting around debating whether to buy a Rota or a Kinesis wheel...
SSR wheels in a 4x100 bolt-pattern are not hubcentric.
In this situation, however, there's going to be trade-offs. 4x100 is a popular offset. To use just one example, the Miata uses it. The miata hub bore, however, is slightly smaller than the honda. So... Rota can make a 4x100 wheel hubcentric to Honda, or they can make a wheel that uses insert rings, thus allowing them to sell to anyone. This is a no-brainer for them. I can't help but think that there's some trade-off to demanding hubcentricity. Either 1) the wheels aren't made at all or 2) the price goes up. Please remember that the reason people want these is they're cheap. References to SSR (300), Volk (300), OZ (200), Kinesis (500+), BBS(200+) really have no relevance. I guess my point is people aren't sitting around debating whether to buy a Rota or a Kinesis wheel...
Good point Jeff, and that makes sense.
Only comment that I still have though, is that Rotas for subarus are still just as cheap as the one-size-fits-all 4x100 Rotas, and certainly there is a larger Honda market than subaru, so wouldnt the economics still support a Rota wheel in honda-only hub bore?
(I realize we are a little off topic, since in reality, hubrings arent that bad to use, just a preference/convenience thing)
Only comment that I still have though, is that Rotas for subarus are still just as cheap as the one-size-fits-all 4x100 Rotas, and certainly there is a larger Honda market than subaru, so wouldnt the economics still support a Rota wheel in honda-only hub bore?
(I realize we are a little off topic, since in reality, hubrings arent that bad to use, just a preference/convenience thing)


