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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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Default 15 X 7 Rota - colors, hubcentric...important **updated**

Please vote as production choices will be influenced by this.

Pick 1st & 2nd color choices.

Hubcentric per app. or hubcentric rings or not at all.

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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You can only vote once.

My pics:
dark silver
silver

I don't really care about hubcentric, but metal rings would be a plus and probably easier to produce than car-specific.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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never mind...


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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 08:56 AM
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hubcentric IMO is critical. I hate messing with those little rings.
1st choice color is gold (rota has gold available)
2nd is bronze

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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you really cant go wrong with silver
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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Why is it critical? I never used those rings. Cant make one wheel hubcentric for every car, or just one car.

hubcentric IMO is critical. I hate messing with those little rings.
1st choice color is gold (rota has gold available)
2nd is bronze

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:14 AM
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Producing hubcentric wheels for each application is probably unrealistic. Having metal rings instead of the usual plastic would be a bonus and +38ET is a must.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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do honda hub bores differ from model to model?
sheesh

and fwiw, if we do have to use those annoying rings, the plastic is fine. I had them on the pig and dareisay my brakes get considerably hotter. the rings have never melted or even stuck.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:55 AM
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The stupid little rings melt, crack, and warp on my car.

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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Hubcentric being nice, if I don't like the color I can rattle can it.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 01:28 PM
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The plastic rings that came with the CP-035 on my Prelude cracked, didn't melt though. But 3 out of 4 cracked, and one of those 3 even broke into 2 rings.

I like the aluminum rings that came with the SE37K on my Integra. Now I have the aluminum ones for the CP-035 on my Prelude.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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teal and pink... swirl design
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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hubcentric and flat black as well... how about some mf10 replicas =P
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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I would get the rotas in 15x6.5. .5 inches will do nothing for handling and the extra .5 inch outward mass can do alot for the rotaional inertia (aka, slow you down)


For colors

Bronze 1st choice
Gun Metal 2nd

I bought the hubcentric rings, 12 bucks for the set (alljdm.com, the owner Jason is a great guy), have not put them on yet (waiting for the weather to be a tad nicer)

As for what wheels, the Circuit 8's are dead sexy and they are real light.


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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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I would get the rotas in 15x6.5. .5 inches will do nothing for handling and the extra .5 inch outward mass can do alot for the rotaional inertia (aka, slow you down)
Riiiiight... Who needs a bigger contact patch... Maybe you should read some previous threads on this subject... Just use the search function...

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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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not trying to start a huge arguement but it is only .5 inches, not that big of a deal when it comes to contact patch. If your are comparing stock vx wheels to these, your argument would be alot better but 6.5 vs 7 is not much at all. With a proper tire, you would see almost no diffrance.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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BLACK !!!!
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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Very few companys have made Hub -centric wheels. The largest company was BBS and was one of the reasons why their wheels where more expensive then just about everyone elses wheels. One particular wheel would only fit a few cars. This is also why BBS finally did away with making hub-centric wheels (approx.1992-93) and went the way of lessor expensive mass market wheels. Hub-centric is the way to go IMHO. There are a few very good wheel manufacturers out there that still make these wheels, Fikse is a very good example and BBS Motorsport wheels, and we are working with TDM on the PRO2. But you will pay quit a bit more for these wheels.
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Old Mar 13, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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I vote silver.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 04:11 AM
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** Silver
** Hubcentric, schmubcentric
** 14x7 rather than 15x7



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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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who is selling the 15X7? link...?
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:27 AM
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Very few companys have made Hub -centric wheels. The largest company was BBS and was one of the reasons why their wheels where more expensive then just about everyone elses wheels. One particular wheel would only fit a few cars. This is also why BBS finally did away with making hub-centric wheels (approx.1992-93) and went the way of lessor expensive mass market wheels.
Sorry, but you are incorrect. All Rotas made for subarus (5x100 ET48) are hubcentric for Subarus. Same with all OZ wheels, and SSR wheels, and some others which I do not recall off the top of my head.

This is why I asked if Hondas have different hub diameters. If they differ, then using hub rings is understandable, but if all Hondas have the same diameter, there is certainly a large enough market to justify having Honda specific wheels.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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Evan, I have to think that this is because a wheel with a Subaru offset and bolt-pattern is basically a Subaru-only wheel. They might as well make them hubcentric since there's noone else to sell them to.

SSR wheels in a 4x100 bolt-pattern are not hubcentric.

In this situation, however, there's going to be trade-offs. 4x100 is a popular offset. To use just one example, the Miata uses it. The miata hub bore, however, is slightly smaller than the honda. So... Rota can make a 4x100 wheel hubcentric to Honda, or they can make a wheel that uses insert rings, thus allowing them to sell to anyone. This is a no-brainer for them. I can't help but think that there's some trade-off to demanding hubcentricity. Either 1) the wheels aren't made at all or 2) the price goes up. Please remember that the reason people want these is they're cheap. References to SSR (300), Volk (300), OZ (200), Kinesis (500+), BBS(200+) really have no relevance. I guess my point is people aren't sitting around debating whether to buy a Rota or a Kinesis wheel...
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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Good point Jeff, and that makes sense.
Only comment that I still have though, is that Rotas for subarus are still just as cheap as the one-size-fits-all 4x100 Rotas, and certainly there is a larger Honda market than subaru, so wouldnt the economics still support a Rota wheel in honda-only hub bore?

(I realize we are a little off topic, since in reality, hubrings arent that bad to use, just a preference/convenience thing)
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