hey guys. i'm planning to do a swap this summer. *still saving up, cause i'm only a senior in high school* i'm thinking of either h23 turbo or h22 na. any reasons why i should pick one over the other? any idea how much h23 turbo would run me? i'm thinking it would be pretty costly but not sure. i'm sure someone here has done it so if you could, please share the cost of it. thanks


[Modified by 5th Gen, 9:28 PM 3/12/2003]

 

DLB1994 has a monster h23 set-up & 2point6 has a monster h22 n/a (I think he's n/a). I'm also debating which one to do.

 

Welcome. IMHO this is the hardest question you'll ever asked yourself, I'm also debating on turboing the F22 or goign NA with the H22A. I guess the best way to know is driving your friends car and see, but i don't have any friends with good NA engines or low HP turbo engines.
In the end i guess a turbo would be the most expensive (off course, done well) and the one with more power (and torque ).
Is a hard question.

 

all motor h22. turbo h23 will cost WAY too much.

 

True, but when you say NA you mean just install the H22A, cuz NA upgrades are costly as well

 

haha im' not getting any help. just a meeting place for everyone contemplating the same thing huh? if i were to get an h22, i wouldn't do much with it. probably have it tuned , then the basic i/h/e, and that would probably be the full extent of it. if i were to do h23 turbo, wow, much more work and $$ would go into it. something i'm not sure if i'm up to doing. i don't know guys...
both options are good choices.

 

In the end, with that kind of money to spend, I'd go H22 NA, and preserve some good reliability. That's just my opinion. I'm not saying going turbo will shorten the life of your engine big tme, but you have to do a lot more tuning, and be careful with it too...

 

agreed.

another question...unfortunatly to say, i drive an AT. *don't flame me guys * i'm planning on doing the at to mt soon as well. would i be better off doing everything all at once? or doing the at to mt first and then just dropping the h22 stright in? i'm still thinking about this one as well, if anyone has any advice for me, or personal experience.

 

The money issue is always a sacrifice. If you want to be the fastest SOB then boost it and of course take care of it as far as maintenance and tuning. I'm no expert nor am I claiming to be but in theory anything you do to your car beyond common bolt-ons is going to get costly. Some people put as much as $20k into their cars. It all depends on how much you want to spend. What I've found to be true is that once people do mods on their car they continually want more after they get accustomed to the performance level. It's a never ending process (speed is addictive). So IMO cut to the chase and boost it.

 

I'd say, go ahead and wait and do it all at once. That way, you don't have to spend any extra money on the tranni you have now, just a money saver in it's own to do it l8r.

-Erik

 

good point.

 

sure is looking that way, good thing i got the motor tranny and ecu for 400cdn. oh well, it's gonna be a hell of a sleeper.

 

yeh turboing a h23 doesnt seem worth it to me, judging by the amount of "those engines have weak sleeves" comments i see. Go H22

 

yeah but in my situation the money i would have spent on the H22A can go towards rebuilding the H23 since i almost got it for nothing, cause it needs lots of work anyways.

 

yeh thats a different kettle of fish, i agree in that situation the money is better spent building the H23 first...cos later if you want the H22 to be quicker you'll end up doing the same thing.

My situation is that i will be boosting the stock F22B1 rather than doing a H22 conversion for the same reason, for the price of the H22 then boosting it (i want boost you see ) i could build the F22 for far greater hp

 

lol..you gonna get some mixed opinion here..
I was at you place couple month ago(yes..fu_king senior at hs have way too much time...lol) but my engine is basically new and I join the darkside..

 

the h22a is the way to go. Forget about the h23a.

 

im in the same boat psyphre, i got my h23a for free, im trying to decide if i want to build it for boost or not

 

My thought exactly. No matter what Honda engine you get, if you wanna boost you need to build it. Might as well spend the money building the engine you already have. There's no reason to spend $3000 on a H22, unless you just have to have that other cam.

 

i think my engine has put out almost all its going to put out. it has about 150k on it and i've mad a lot of trouble with it. i guess it would be a lot of work to rebuild, and yes i just have to have that other cam.


[Modified by 5th Gen, 12:26 PM 3/14/2003]

 

H22

 

I love the reliability that my H22 has given me.
With just the basic bolt ons it's already pretty fast for a street sleeper.

 

I have to agree with h22accord on that one. Reliability issue play a role when dealing with a boosted motor. The H22a will be a reliable motor (hopefully you get a good one). H23 on boost will require some tuning and constant maintenance.

 

thanks a lot guys. i was leaning more towards the h22 anyways.

i need references though, has anyone bought an h22 or any motor for that matter from password:jdm? i know a lot of their other stuff is reliable and they have good service, but havn't heard anything about their motors.

 

so would it even be a good idea to build this h23? i got the motor for free. it does have a bad connecting rod. havent bought anything yet. plan to pull it apart and rebuild it with aftermarket parts. only thing is though my car is a daily driver and i do plan to boost it. any thoughts?