do type R have sunroofs? or is that that they do'nt becuz they are trying to save wieght?

 

They do not have sunroofs.

This is so the car is more rigid, weighs less and has more headroom for the driver.

 

No they dont have sun-roofs. But I do believe in Australia is it a option. And yes the removed sunroof and a/c do decrease the weight.

- is thankful the itr doesnt have a sunroof, so he can sit in it fine.

 

It may be a dealer installed option, but Honda never offered it as an option.

 

Correct my friend.... I had my S/R installed through my Honda dealer, who fortunately uses an excellent after-market S/R manufacturer & installer (unlike others, some of my other S/R installing ITR friends have used).

Besides reducing height (when factory installed) for taller folk - I would however, vigourously debate any 'minor' negative differences the added weight or reduced rigidity has, on the handling/performance of a prodominately 'road driven' car.... nor on the track for 'recreational' purposes (certainly hasn't effected my times etc)!!


[Modified by Aussie_ITR-0239, 6:53 PM 3/11/2003]

 

doesn't installing a sunroof on a car decrease the integrity of the frame?

 

It reduces rigidity.

The unitbody frame integrity is still the same (as in, the car won't just fold in on itself) but, it will bend and twist easier and not be as rigid and allow the car to handle as true to the suspension.

Plus with the sunroof, you add about 40to 50 extra pounds, and lose a bit of headroom as Reid mentioned. Plus it's also safer with metal above your head than glass on the track in the event of a rollover.

That all said, I still miss my sunroof sometimes.


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The amount of added weight and loss of headroom - depends on brand/type and whether the S/R was a factory (obviously not for the ITR) OR an after-market install. Plus the likelihood of a roll-over for 'recreational' track days, is pretty low (unless you do something really stupid) and one certainly would NOT have it, if the car was destined for mainly track useage!

I personally, would not enjoy my car as much.... without the S/R installed.

 

No sunroof = more room for helmet /

 

This is definitely true when I AutoX

 

When I had a sunroof, i NEVER used it. Maybe just to sit back in my car and stargaze... fruity me. Anyhow, I don't miss it.

 

No problems height, when wearing my helmet (then again, I'm only 5'10").... besides my roof is NO lower than any ITR; as it was not a factory S/R ?!