Teenage girl, boyfriend in passenger seat, drag racing...
Lost control, crossed the median, got airborne and literally landed in the passenger compartment of an oncoming car.
Driver of oncoming car, 61 year old grandmother... killed
Boyfriend... killed
Driver... Seriously injured

To put it in Shultz terms;
"She killed two people but at least she faces vehicular manslaughter charges when she gets out of the hospital. Excellent."

 

I hope she is in extreme amounts of pain, physically, mentally, whatever

Morgan - who knows he is a sadistic, insensitive ******* and doesn't need anybody to tell him that

 

<---a-hole too

 

I was about the 5th or 6th car on the scene Friday night when a drunk ******* flipped his Jeep Grand Cherokee right around the corner from my place. I got there in time to stop the morons from the first 5 or 6 cars who were going to flip it upright with the driver still in the car. While I talked them out of that (since we didn't know if the guy had any kind of neck/back/spinal chord injury), some other idiot smashed out the passenger side window with a crow bar. I guess they felt there was a need for more broken glass in the area where the guy was crawling around. I know they were trying to help, but if the car isn't on fire, and the guy isn't suffocating, leave the damn car alone until the professionals get there!

Anyway, he was trashed out of his mind, and was telling all of us through the window how much he loved us for helping him, and how great we all are. I didn't know the extent of his injuries, so I was just trying to keep him talking, at which point he said, "I'm drunk!" To which I replied in a very Karlistic tone, "That's super."

I just stuck around until the Fire personnel got there, and then went on my way to see my movie. I didn't even miss the beginning of it, which is the really important part of this whole thing....


Matt

 

Very similar thing just happened here last week. Seems it's always the innocent who pay the untimate price.

 

anybody here about the street racing accident on 28 over the weekend?

Dan

 

yeah, I heard about it from an police officer that posts over on nasioc

Last night on Rte.28 near Dulles airport, two vehicles were racing at excessive speeds (not WRXs thank goodness). They were witnessed by numerous vehicles that were travelling at around 65mph and stated that they had never seen cars pass them that fast.

When one of the cars appoached the exit ramp to the Dulles Toll Road, a car came off the ramp and pulled in front of him/her. No where to go...WHAM! The two cars flipped and basically disintegrated all over Rte.28. Two people had major trauma and had to be medivac-ed to Fairfax Trauma Center. One of them was not even involved in the "race".

The second car that was racing was viewed by witnesses to continue northbound towards sterling swerving through traffic at continued high speeds.

The investigators estimated the speed of the striking vehicle at over 100mph due to the amount of damage caused and the distance the wreckages travelled.

 

Oh man, this is one topic about which I can never get around to throwing in smiley faces in posts. I resent the "don't give a ****" attitude out there, and street racing such as this IMO are top examples of this, as death is the ultimate price for an activity that serves absolutely no purpose.

I feel the same way about people driving drunk.

 

I anyone would care to comment further, please feel free to do so at this thread:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=438649

There's just got to be some way besides death to get the message across.

 

I've seen so many crashes at the races down Philly. I never participated I just usually watch but it was becoming so dangerous that innocent by standers were almost getting hurt. I watch a guy on a superbike one night flip like 8 times in the air and he latered died that night in the hospital I believe. Street racing is so damn dangerous rather take it to the track. Also witnessed a guy in cobra mustang crash into the back of another mustang, and the guy was already done racing he just came flying back down the street for no reason and wasn't paying attention and ramed the back of the other dude, he was doing like 70mph.

 

retards. all of them. And every one of them says the same thing

- Its ok because other people are doing it
- Not like you never street raced
- We're not going that fast
- We're doing it in open areas where no one's around (so while their skulls are split open on one is around to call 911)
- We're safe about it
- We only take it through 2nd gear (yeah right)
- Dont hate on us because we're trying to have fun
- We dont wanna pay/drive to go to the track

 

Not a well formulated idea but ... how about a little boycott blockade thing with race cars on trailers at the opening of Fast and Fuckheadedness II?

Not a blockading boycotter by nature but .... trailers can get stuck getting into movie parking lots no?

 

I would be all over this deal...but I don't have a racecar on a trailer.

It would be funny...I would participate.

aj

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=438952

This is my honest attempt at being a good samaritan. Seriously.
It'll get flamed all to hell and maybe even locked, but I gave it a shot.

Kind of tagging on to Phatty's post, does anyone know someone who would print up a bunch of freebie "Racers Against Street Racing" vinyl to put on our cars. I mean, my car gets a buttload of attention from the cr3w when its on the trailer...
Oh, and it's be good to have for the phatty blockade.


[Modified by Catch 22, 11:50 PM 3/10/2003]

 

That should be a sticky in the Kills forum. Excellent piece.

 

This is so sad. That freakin movie really hurts us, and others.

People that drink and drive and people who race at those speeds are trully retarded. Whats the point? Prove yourself on a track any track.

We have some street racing here and its Really Lame like a 4 door shi* hole against a 2 door geo.

Lamers

 

wasn't honda doing something like "R.A.S.R"? Racers Against Sreet Racing. I don't know if they are still doing it though. if they are, Honda America would probably already have the sticker.

i like the boycott idea. unfortunately it would probably be mis-construed by the media and would hurt legitimate track racing everywhere. besides, i don't want to be driving anywhere the night that movie is released.

nate

 

I used to like the Car and Driver forums...but it has seemed to be taken over by immature morons - and I have since not had a reason to peruse it daily, or even weekly. Here's a 'racing' post there that I have commented on...

Yo, I ConDonE StrEeT RaCiNg ThrEaD!

Vracer111, who knows that it's hard to change peoples mind - since the only one who can change your mind is yourself. You just have to be open to change.

 

my dad was explaing to me how they used to race back in the day, but in 6000 lbs steel beast cars that wouldn't go over 100 mph

boycotting FnF2 won't help much and will cast a shadow over the import racing community IMHO

why not take some responsibilty ourselves and promote safe street driving? why not hand out flyers for various driving events? why not help NASA promote the Hyperfest style events? we make fun of the kids that show up too those events(I know I do) but I guarantee that is the first exposure they have ever had to the track
Corey is a perfect example of this. He has this way of pulling random ricers into the track scene or just into the reality that street racing is plain stupid. I guess being a bartender helps this. Why can't we all do the same though?

street racing is gonna happen, it's a testasterone driven thing. We need to push as hard as we can to expose the other 99% of people on the road to what we love. I know weelkly I send out 5 or 6 e-mails to random companies/magazines/radio stations/TV station/etc. promoting HDPE's and the ECHC.

the problem is that the import scene does not have any older, mature enthusiasts that speak out against street racing, this import community is easily influenced

 

Nah Morgan, I think you are 100% correct (damn, I say that too much ). My comments were said somewhat in jest and somewhat not. Where I was thinking at the time is that movies are shelved or at least majorly delayed when they immitate life (there was a terrorist movie with a big name actor, maybe Schwartzaneger or someone of that ilk that was shelved due to the WTC building attacks just as an example) around a bad/tragic event. Well, seemingly you could pick up a paper any day in the US and read about this stuff so my thinking went.

What I really did think would be beneficial is to have a nice pamplet detailing the differences in safety, knowledge, etc ... (sorta like a "What you might not know" or "Why its not safe" thing) and what better audience to push that information upon but the folks that would see the "debut" of FNF2. But I do not feel wise enough to create something like this that wouldn't be tossed in the circular file along with the "drugs are bad" stuff from when I was a teen.

It would be nice if we (the greater club and other racing community) could attract these guys to the track in the form of crewing or other activities to give them a taste of how a.) accessible it is for them and b.) how much different the safety is from street stuff.

Just more random thoughts.

 

I actually got a chuckle out of your comment, because it is something that I would actually consider doing because it pisses me off, but I digress

Corey and I had some pamphlets at one point for NASA events, but they are outdated now, I will definetly be promoting all Summit Point events since they are local to my area

a lot of people have seen Coreys car in picture's and heard him talk about it a s casual bar conversation but really have no clue what is involved, it would be cool to say "You've heard about it, now come see what it is all about"

the thing that kills me is that with the bad and ignorant, rebellious attitude that the average import street racer has, the more we tell them that they should not do it they will do it even more.

 

This actually was suggested by a number of people when FnF first came out. What better way to attract new membership to a sports car club than to set up a booth at the movie theatres. It's a tough sell to these kids, living off the adrenaline of a street race. However, there's a lot of kids that just don't know about anything better. We've had quite a few street racers (yO!) join our club who never knew such fun existed as autocrossing.

[edit: kan't spel, yAo!]


[Modified by Shmeek, 9:13 AM 3/11/2003]

 

A story i heard on this topic a while back is represented here:

http://www.racelegal.com/site/introduction.htm

At least 45 events per year, moderately controlled environment, and a strong police deterrent to get people to accept this. Basically, all the elements of the "scene," just in a fenced, patrolled place. From early reports, it sounded pretty effective. If I grew up in an era of street-racing, I might not have listened to "just say no" when I was 17, but if there was an event that I could check out, I would have done it. Rice queens, Boomin systems, Burnouts, Drag racing (with times) -- all available pretty much every week?

 

for that you need an attention getter, something like taking the race car to the theaters and put it on display while handing out flyers and talking to movie goers about legal track racing, just a thought

i agree that there need to be more education, i talk to alot of people around school about racing (their first question is where do i street race )and they all dont understand how autoxing is legal, but i end up getting them interested and i think i have someone different lined up for just about every event this year to go and see what its all about

when I went to see the first F&F me and a friend decided we would go early in the afternoon to avoid the mayhem, it still didnt work, I had a guy in a jeep trying to race me at the light going out of the theater (you couldn't go straight out of the lot you had to go left at the light) needless to say he almost rolled the damn thing right there trying to show off.

when the next one comes out, im staying off the streets for a few weeks

wow that was a bunch of random thoughts but i think i got somekind of a point across

 

Hrm. Putting two-and-two together: What about trying to put on a legal, monthly, controlled, night-time autox event?

Invite stunnas, etc. Make it like a HypeR-fest, but in a parking lot w/ a few cone courses where people could do runs. That would satisfy the urge to pimp, introduce a form of motorsports where skill is in the driving (not engine building), and maybe seem rebellious enough to have "cred" (i.e., "we can't do this on the street b/c you can't make courses like these there -- unlike those straight-line, mullet-wearing wussies.").

A head-to-head coruse would be needed to satisfy the need for competition and a simple course would be needed to keep stunnas from getting lost -- but that seems totally doable. Of course, finding people to man the stations...