anyone have hp pads? i've heard they're of exceptional quality but a downfall is they're somewhat louder than most other pads. any opinion on these? i'm doing an overhaul on my brake and suspension system this spring and wanted a good streetable set-up.

are goodridge lines the best lines?

can someone recommend me some lightweight high-quality rotors?

 

Pads: Any performance pad is going to be a comprimise over stock. Dust, Noise, Wear, etc. The new carbotech pads sound promising (Bobcat, i think). If not, HP+ are great pads too.

Rotors: Brembo blanks. You dont want lightweight rotors.

Lines: Stock, flush through some valvoine synpower fluid.

 

well if you are talking about hawk pads I would say the hp was pretty quiet but hp+ made a whole hell of a lot of noise.They actually made more noise then my blue race pads.

hp is a good pad.

 

I didnt like the HPS (street) at all...... really no better than stock. Unless you are autocrossing or doing track days i'd just use a stock pad - they dont make noise or dust, wear well, and are cheap.

 

I agree its a good pad but nothing special

 

I just finished a day at the track with my Civic (more on this later) with some very heavy use on some Carbotech Panther XP's and they were phenomenal. I was running them with Goodridge SS brake lines, ATE Super Blue racing fluid, and autozone OE rotors. Never had any fade, very good and easily managable pedal modulation, and very strong braking performance. I'd almost say the setup felt as good as my ITR's brakes with Hawk HP+'s. Oh, and I'm also still on my stock rear drums, which probably need to be replaced with another set (stock).

 

i too am on stock drums, i'm thinking i might just get brembo blanks, some stainless lines, fluid and what are those carbotech panthers? would that be streetable? excessive dust, noise, wear?

 

Panther+ and Panther XP's are dusty, noisy, and dont stop well when cold.

Carbotech has a new street compound coming out (Bobcat i think) and Cobalt just got their pads shipped in.

You dont need SS lines. Just make sure you flush in good fluid (Valvoline Synpower, Ford HD)

 

I would go with these.

 

 

On the street, yes.

I've driven every possible flavor of Panther on the street (original Panther 1103/1104, Plus, XP 1108, XP 1109) over the last 4 years. All of them stop ~like an OE pads when cold. Sure they don't stop cold like they do at track temps, but they DO stop the car. Panther and Panther Plus are even gaining popularity for auto-x.

Another thing they don't do is eat rotors, screw up rim finishes, and pit side panels.


[Modified by MaddMatt, 6:49 PM 3/10/2003]

 

The panther+ stop alot better than the XP's cold. I used them for a season of autocross, actually liked them better than the Kelate Metallics.

 

I'll agree with that. P+ needs less heat to get into the high torque range.

Wow. The Kelated Metallics are notorious for head-in-dashboard-stopping at ambient temps. Several top running solo2 guys swear by them. Panther Plus is something I never got around to trying for autocross, but I intend to give them a shot this year. Perhaps I'll do that next weekend at Laurinburg....

 

The P+ would take one stop to warm up, but after that they were dynamite. Of course having a tire warmer... err.. co-driver for last year helped alot. I was very happy with the KM compound.

FYI - dont use KM's in the rear on track They are dust in one event

 

I'm surpised they were dust in the rear after a weekend. We use that material for shoes for older race cars as well with rather good success.

Now getting back to the topic at hand:

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You'd think a 2300 lb car wouldnt be so hard on the brakes Maybe its just operator error....

 

Or maybe tiny rear rotors run hotter than larger drums? KM is not a high temp material for sure.

 

Who knows..... i learned my lesson on it though. At any track other than CMP in august they probably would have been ok.

 

Ah! I think I found the problem

 

That set costs about $4000 and the rotors arent even ventilated. Imagine what the price would be with ventilated versions.

 

why do you say this as I have heard different things for different apps. thanks

 

Huskerhybrid are you just planning on just running your car on the street or are you planning on tracking/autocrossing the car?

 

Rotor = Heat Sink. Less mass is not good here.

 

You might NEED the Panther Plus's for Laurinburg..........evil laugh!

 

i was going to tryout autocross locally this spring, i'm getting new suspension and possible new wheels, i'm on generic autopart store pads and oe rotors right now. there's a good chance i won't have enough time for auto-x BUT i do want a better brake set-up than the current... thanks for all the info guys