I would like to know your experiences with Tempest Racing, either good or bad. Please respond for anyone who has been there.

Greg

 

if your in MD stop by my shop in white marsh area. ill match or beat any price around and we offer the best service around! check the sig...

 

Ive been there. They do awesome custom pipe work. All stainless steel, and reasonably priced....their tuning is mediocre. My car ran way to rich and could have made lots more power....but such is life

 

what did you think of customer service? did you have to call them to get anywhere or did they call YOU?

 

It was pretty good. I setup the appt. the day before. Took my car there, just for the tune, and ended up having them make the downpipe the same day. They stayed till 11pm to finish it

 

It was ok, the wideband kept acting up because "your car is doing some wack **** to it", I am running way to rich and have a CEL without code. I spent about 4 hours on the dyno and only got charged for two.
I am taking the Hatch to SGT to get a second opinion, and hopefully tuned a little better.

Not negative, but not positive...it felt like unless I was pushing 500hp and 25psi my car was not really worth the effort. I have put a LOT of time and effort in my car myself, including my first engine swap and my first turbo. I like to think things are done right for my $ and not get told "you need to figure out why you have a CEL with no code, because your car is doing some wack ****." .....I didn't have a CEL at all until they started programming the S200.

 

don't goto this place if you have a built motor or pretty much anything done to the car.

don't go if you have to get tuning because you will regret it the whole time.

 

Greg, thanks for pawning all of your existing problems off on us. All I've done from the beginning is try to help you out with your car that you bought (off of Ebay). The car was already "built" (7.?:1 C/R, scored cylinder walls, low cylinder pressure, sounds like a broken Tank, etc.) when you brought it to me, so your problems are not a result of anything we have done. Why do you think the guy sold the car to you for $6500. A great deal?! Why are you trashing us instead of the guy that sold you the car? We stand by everything we do 100%, and if something is not 100% right, we will not hesitate to correct the problem. We can not, however, work miracles or turn water into wine (or in this case take a screwed up "built" motor and make it perfect for $5). You were way in over your head with this car and shouldn't have bought it in the first place. We have plenty of very satisfied repeat customers that can vouch for the quality of our work and customer service. Sorry for taking up bandwidth on this board for this BS.

 

bullshit, when the car was brought to you in the first place just to have tuned because of the carbon that was comming out my exhaust, it went down hill from there. The car was not bought off of ebay so get your facts straight.

Scored cylender walls, I don't see any smoke comming out the exhaust...do you? no so stop feeding the bullshit and just admit that you all don't know what the hell you all are doing.

Customer service????? What the hell is that. Your shop does not know the meaning of customer service. When my father called you all while the car sat in the freakin lot, he left a message every time he called and you or joe never called him back until there was a threat of some sort. Before the car was brought to the shop the first time, i called 5 times on my house phone, and 6 times on my cell phone at around 4:30 knowing damn well that you all were open. Joe didn't pick up till the 12 time i called. The fact that your shop does care about other peoples car's or other people's money should be understood. I have plenty of people that will tell these people on here and every where else that you all don't know what you are doing when it comes to a car that is already built. If you didn't know what the hell was going on with my car in the first place, why the hell did you keep on telling me to do this and do that "that will fix the problem, im sure of it" so 3000 later, the car runs worse and you all are sitting pretty with my money and no worries because you all know i will not come back.

The guy i bought the car from is a great guy. I have known him for a while before i bought his car and he treats everything that he owns with respect. He got rid of the accord because of his new project the wrx, if you don't believe me or him just look at the pics or call him or alamo up. When i picked the car up from OK, there was NOTHING wrong, no bucking, no jerking, none of that ****.

And you stand by everything? what was this **** that when i picked up the car after getting the headgasket done (a week later) and i get the car back with a boost gauge not working, abs light, cel, no strut bar, boost controller sensor just laying in the engine compartment, bolts missing, and the fact that you said that "we didn't have time" which is straight up bull ****. If i owned a shop, i would take care of what the custmer asked before the shop left the shop. The fact that you all did not even care to look at the exhaust that i asked you to fixed really shows reliablility and the fact that you don't care.

The only BS on this board is your shop!!!

 

This is rather laughable. Why did you have to tow the car from where you bought it? When you first brought me the car, you told me that it's bucking and running like sh$t (right after you bought it). As for the scored cylinder walls, well I guess I should have took pictures just for you, but just for fun, do a compression test and see what ya get. I NEVER told you that any ONE thing will fix all of your problems, and further more, I never gave any "guarantees" to anything except for the work that we were doing. In other words, I will ABSOLUTELY NOT vouch for the motor or anything else in the car that we did not have anything to do with. The biggest problem was that no one (especially not you) knew everything that was done to the motor. You didn't even know what pistons (8.5:1 Arias?) were in there, and you didn't know about the head gasket spacer and the 2 Stock headgaskets on the car (WTF?), The cam timing (someone forgot to tighten the bolts on your UR cam gear and, OOOPSY, the gear slipped and moved out 10 degrees). For you so say that I told you "that will fix the problem, im sure of it", is 100000% LIE. I specifically told you that you had multiple problems, and that fixing one problem is fixing one problem. WE DID NOT BUILD YOUR MOTOR. We don't have any of these problems with the motors we build. As for you calling and your daddy calling, we told you to come in in person so that we can go over what you wanted to do and to physically show you some things. Not have the car dropped off and leave a note in it. If you think that we are getting rich off of you, you're sorely mistaken. All said and done, we didn't charge you for HALF of the time we spent on your car chasing everything that was screwed up from whoever worked on it before us. Also, reguardless of the situation, it bothers me that there is no closure, and that you are unhappy with us whether you want to come back to us or not. Why didn't you come in and talk to me about whatever you concerns? I would have been more than happy to answer any of your questions like I have done so many times in the past. You were happy with us in the past, you even thanked me for helping you out when no one else would touch the car.
As for when you picked the car up after we did the head gasket (after you had your friend try to replace the headgasket unsuccessfully and ended up stripping out bolts, not putting things back, exhaust leaks, etc.), you wanted the car back no matter what, and I never told you that "we didn't have time", it was you who didn't want to wait. We didn't fix you exhaust because we didn't break it. Your buddy screwed it up, and also stripped out 2 bolts/threads in the turbo. I specifically told you that we would have to pull the turbo to repair the threads and you didn't want to do that at the time. By the way, the only thing we didn't do was put your strut brace back on, which I appologized for and promply reinstalled. The other items you shold talk to your buddy about. Instead of hiding on this board why don't you stop by and talk to me in person.

 

Wow, great response. And I agree that these things should be settled in person...people tend to have a big head when they're behind a computer. (Happening alot lately?) IMHO, it sounds like the car was running like **** before Tempest touched it...that's the worse situation for a shop, is to try and fix other people's problems and to only get blamed for all the things gone wrong with it afterwards.

Hope things get worked out...

 

I know the guy who sold you the car and it had none of those symptoms the day before he came and picked it up when i rode in it. The reason it was sold for such a low price was because it was a 94 accord with a salvage title (i think). if you look at how much 4 door 94 accords with out clear titles are goin for youd realize that that was a little bit of money for a 94 accord. anyways i will vouche for alamo autosports that built the car that from seeing recent and old cars they put out they are a very sucessful company that KNOWS what they are doing with cars. the guy who sold the accord pampered that car and there was nothing wrong with it before he sold it.

 

Well, im gonna be there this Sat to see if they can figure out what is wrong with my idle,new dp, and get them to look at some other stuff i cant figure out.

Inline Pro is just too damn far away, and Tempest tunes Hondata.
So ill let you guys know how my expirience is there.

 

You guys work on Hondas? I see a buncha Stangs rollin with the "Mid-Atlantic" stickers

 

I originally thought they same thing, why not just go to tempest, i mean its closer. No matter what tempest tuning level/experience is, good or bad, Inline Pro definitely has them beat. **** have u seen how many race and street cars inline has that are actually running on the street and track and they are quick. They have a street car that spun tires from a 80-90mph rolling start all they way up to 140mph on tape. It's well worth the drive to VA to see them, **** just call them up on the phone and u'll believe me.

 

I must say that inline pro was very good, pricey, but very good. They finally got the beast working right and come to find out the 1500 that i spent at tempest was never really needed for what I wanted to do. But after all the abuse of tempest running the car on the dyno machine for close to 42 sessions in a matter of a few days, when the car finally ran right, thats when it brought out the wrose and I had no choice but to drop a new motor because my bottom end was shot from all the abuse on their dyno. I ended up spending about 3800 at tempest for a ton of things and screw ups that should of never happened, but you know what, times have past, im still pissed about the whole thing but there is nothing that any one person can do. I hope that other people that take their cars to tempest have (or had) better luck than i did.

 

boostedf22... i feel your pain main. None of what happened at tempest should have happened. I just heard a new solgan from my friend keith, "if u want it done right the first time go to inline" btw, jason, keith is at my house right now. The one with the red hatch. He said that he didn't mess with any of the afc setting. and why would he. he paid u guys to tuned his car. ...yeah so i hope to see ur show car run at the track.

 

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does he have that red hatch that john up at inline was talking about it looked like a child went in and screwed with the settings?

 

does keith live in Chespeake Beach? I really want to hear his opinion about the tuning specifics of both shops. I have a few friends that know him as well as Stan talking about him living near me. I saw his car once down by my area at the post office and he supposedly lives down there. Keith - if you're on this board, PM me.

 

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does he have that red hatch that john up at inline was talking about it looked like a child went in and screwed with the settings? </TD></TR></TABLE>

that would be him.

pub- yeah he lives down that way. I dont know what his s/n is on here. I'll see if i can find out.

 

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that would be him.

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didn't they blow his motor? if im not mistaken that was the motor that inline pro put toghter, then he decided to take it to tempest and afterwards it was all fu**ed

Greg

 

Yeah, that motor did blow. Whether it was Tempest, InlinePRO, or his own fault, I do not know.

 

I have had nothing but good experience with tempest racing. Jason, and Joe do the finest work in the in maryland. His fabrications skills are top notch. I really think there are to many spoiled kids, with no patience allways complaining on this board. Jason

 

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Spoiled rich kids eh, i really wish i was one, i earned every single dollar to pay for the "much needed" work that I "had" to get done on my car. Complaining, hell yea I have every room to complain spending tons of money that never needed to be spent in the first place.

The only thing that I can really say is, if you take your car there and then get it built by them, thats when their work is good, try to bring in something that they have never messed with before, thats when their work sucks. I can not say that the cars that THEY have built were bad, its just when you bring cars that are MODIFIED already, thats when the problems happen


Modified by boostedf22 at 11:36 PM 7/14/2003

 

yeah if tempest didnt build the motor i wouldnt hold them responsible, however there is a guy on this board with a type-r who claims they did the whole setup and the car doesnt make any power. everyone says the same thing, fabrication at tempest is great but they dont know too much about tuning. so lets conclude on that note.