Can you name that tune?
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Been having fun going through old VHS in-car videos converting to digital. Made a fun little video to share. It should be pretty easy to figure out the band's name, but can you name that tune? Anyone else listen to them?
Unfortunately, I had to reduce the res to make it a faster down load. Click the "Jellybean Racing" link below.
Unfortunately, I had to reduce the res to make it a faster down load. Click the "Jellybean Racing" link below.
I love the part around 2.54min into the video.
Butt Rock Ownz Joo.
Oh and whats up with the blue dash and white face gauges. You STUNNA
[Modified by uc0083, 7:27 PM 3/3/2003]
Butt Rock Ownz Joo.
Oh and whats up with the blue dash and white face gauges. You STUNNA
[Modified by uc0083, 7:27 PM 3/3/2003]
Not a clue on the song, but cool video 
What location is it that looks like a road course surrounded by forest? Looks like something out of Gran Turismo.

What location is it that looks like a road course surrounded by forest? Looks like something out of Gran Turismo.
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What location is it that looks like a road course surrounded by forest? Looks like something out of Gran Turismo.
Kyle,
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The SIR (ne PR) clips brought back memories. I'll have to tell you about the "Ross Bentley line" into 3A/3B some day - assuming they are still numbered that way after the changes. Other highlights...
** Getting buzzed by a red 944 on the backside at PIR (in my day it was Dane Pitaressi)
** The shift light on for four seconds about 4 minutes into the video (I got busted by the guy who was loaning me an ITB Rabbit one time - everyone could see the light on the big tach on the dash from the stands above T9, staying on longer and loonger, and looonger on the 3-4 upshift as I tried to chase down a guy in a BMW 2002.)
** The 325 pointing you by (I know we aren't supposed to think impure thoughts but heh, heh, heh...)
Kirk
** Getting buzzed by a red 944 on the backside at PIR (in my day it was Dane Pitaressi)
** The shift light on for four seconds about 4 minutes into the video (I got busted by the guy who was loaning me an ITB Rabbit one time - everyone could see the light on the big tach on the dash from the stands above T9, staying on longer and loonger, and looonger on the 3-4 upshift as I tried to chase down a guy in a BMW 2002.)
** The 325 pointing you by (I know we aren't supposed to think impure thoughts but heh, heh, heh...)
Kirk
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The SIR (ne PR) clips brought back memories. I'll have to tell you about the "Ross Bentley line" into 3A/3B some day - assuming they are still numbered that way after the changes.
** Getting buzzed by a red 944 on the backside at PIR (in my day it was Dane Pitaressi)
** The shift light on for four seconds about 4 minutes into the video
** The 325 pointing you by (I know we aren't supposed to think impure thoughts but heh, heh, heh...)
The band is the Killer Dwarfs, and the song is Cowboys and Conmen.[Modified by johng, 8:19 AM 3/4/2003]
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A couple of us sat on the hill at a pro Atlantic race in the early '80s and took segment times. Oddly, the fastest guy from where they came into sight out of 2 through where they disappeared into the squiggles was Canadian Ross Bentley - not one of the frontrunners in the series at the time.
We watched and determined that his line was radically different than the conventional approach (and your video) - exit 2 at the clipping point on driver's right, then diagonal down the hill to set up for breaking on driver's left, for the RH hairpin, with a turn in for 3A way up by where the runoff starts. The "classic" line then runs past a late apex of 3A to someplace in the middle of the track between the hairpins, then struggle to get to driver's right before turning in for 3B...
Instead, Bentley stayed driver's right all the way down the hill, braked very late at the right edge of the track for the hairpin, whipped the car right as he literally crossed the track where it bends into the corner, then straight-shot a very late apex at 3A to be WAY driver's right for 3B. This allowed him to be on the gas earlier for 3B and achieve a late apex there without hassles.
I think the dynamic works because it allows later braking into 3A by effectively lengthening the braking zone by the width of the track. Since the corner is so slow, distance traveled becomes more critical to elapsed time, and the total line is shorter as well. In essence, this is almost an outbraking line for 3A and it has the advantage of not leaving the door open for someone to go inside of you there.
Be advised that it is different enough that people will point and laugh - or wag a furled black flag at you as happened to me in a Conference enduro there. I was driving our rally GTI, which really liked to change directions in the wet. I'd go barreling down there, brake later than anything else on the road and trail the brakes a little to get the rear end to come around. I was then pointed right where I wanted to be - well, most of the time anyway - for 3B. It was suggested by the stewards to my codrivers in the pits that I was "out of control in 3A and 3B".
Play with it and let the watch make the final decision.
Kirk
We watched and determined that his line was radically different than the conventional approach (and your video) - exit 2 at the clipping point on driver's right, then diagonal down the hill to set up for breaking on driver's left, for the RH hairpin, with a turn in for 3A way up by where the runoff starts. The "classic" line then runs past a late apex of 3A to someplace in the middle of the track between the hairpins, then struggle to get to driver's right before turning in for 3B...
Instead, Bentley stayed driver's right all the way down the hill, braked very late at the right edge of the track for the hairpin, whipped the car right as he literally crossed the track where it bends into the corner, then straight-shot a very late apex at 3A to be WAY driver's right for 3B. This allowed him to be on the gas earlier for 3B and achieve a late apex there without hassles.
I think the dynamic works because it allows later braking into 3A by effectively lengthening the braking zone by the width of the track. Since the corner is so slow, distance traveled becomes more critical to elapsed time, and the total line is shorter as well. In essence, this is almost an outbraking line for 3A and it has the advantage of not leaving the door open for someone to go inside of you there.
Be advised that it is different enough that people will point and laugh - or wag a furled black flag at you as happened to me in a Conference enduro there. I was driving our rally GTI, which really liked to change directions in the wet. I'd go barreling down there, brake later than anything else on the road and trail the brakes a little to get the rear end to come around. I was then pointed right where I wanted to be - well, most of the time anyway - for 3B. It was suggested by the stewards to my codrivers in the pits that I was "out of control in 3A and 3B".

Play with it and let the watch make the final decision.
Kirk
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