I was asked to do a review of the chips that I have from http://www.hyperducktuning.com so here you all go.
If you look in my Bio you will see the modifications that I have done to my car, which apply greatly to a chipped ecu. First off with the stock program of the PR3 my car was not running correctly. It was running way lean and wanting to idle very low when warm and die.

So the first program that I tried was the Toda Racing chip. It was very responsive in the low rpm and very similar to stock in the 4.8rpm-vtec....to the 8.7 rev limit. I only used this program for a day, and came to the conclusion that it was not for my setup...being it is a program tuned for the A-spec/B-spec camshafts. It still had a idle problem with my setup.

The program that I am currently using is the Mines VX program. It has a 5.2rpm vtec, and a infinite rpm band....aka no rev limit. This is the program that is not showing my warm idle trouble....it's cured. I used this program this Sunday for the first Auto-X of this season for the EESCC. My friends and myself were very pleased with how my car's performance was on Sunday. There was exellent throttle response from idle to ~9k rpm....not exactly sure how high I took it? With no reported backfire....from my friends and myself. I was told that I had the best sounding import there. I was also told that my car also definately sounded not stock. I was very pleased with the Mines VX program.

I also have the Spoon program with the 4.8k rpm vtec, and the 8.7k rpm rev limit. I have yet to try this program. When I do I will update this thread.
Also I am expecting the Mugen program with a 5.2k rpm vtec, and a 9k rpm rev limit. I will also post my opinion on this program in the future.

Thanks for your time, Aaron.

 

duck power ownz you

 

Yeah can't beat the price too! Benifits+Price=Good Deal!

 

thanks for the info.. i may need this someday.. really.

 

No problem, the best benifit from Adrian at Hyperducktuning is that he socket's the ecu so you can choose/change the chip that works best for your application.

 

Adrian

 

i want to know what u thought of the mugen program.

 

agreed

 

I have not recieved the "Mugen N1" program yet, Adrian say's it's on it's way. When I get it I will try it out for a couple day's, then post my thoughts in this thread. I am thinking it will benifit my setup being that it eliminates the second O2 sensor. I am running a DCsports header with only one O2 sensor crimp-connected to both ecu inputs. Plus my setup just want's fuel.

 

The "Mugen N1" program is on it's way. I should have it within a week and then I will post the results of how it is for my setup after a couple testing day's.
Aaron.

 

thnx

 

hybrid fiend,
what do mean when you say he "sockets th ecu"? i've never heard this term.

 

Instead of soldiering in a chip, you or Adrian soldier in a "socket" to plug the chip into. Does that give you a mental picture? Don't make me take my digi and post a pic for you.

 

so i can the chip myself, right? how many chips does it come with and can i pick one from a pr3 and pwo (mix & match)?

 

i think he includes 3 programs per order and no you cant mixnmatch ecu's

 

Have you checked out his site? http://www.hyperducktuning.com Email him or PM him on this board...EG6ajk

You can have him send you a kit to DIY...but you better have experience and the skills. You get 2 programs of your choice, and no a PW0 does not work for a PR3.

 

i did checkout the site. but i still want to know if i can order a pr3 already chipped. i see that there were obd1 packages but no obdo vtec packages. do you stock these or do i have to send a pr3 in?

 

thanks Aaron, you're right PW0 chips are not interchangable with PR3 or vice-versa. (so don't try it will not work)

DIY kits include all parts necessary (in the case of PR3/PW0/PM6/PR4 = Socket), 2 chips / programs of your choice, instructions and shipping for = $35US.

SlickCRX:
-PR3 is not a usual stock item, as they are rather pricey and hard to obtain (at least where I am at). but if you do need one price is = $300US shipped ( includes 3 programs of your choice)

 

i was rather disappointed with the products he seems to offer,
he doesnt really offer anything for my application

i need to cut out my 2nd 02 sensor but he said he couldnt, on his website it says that he can remove sensors.

anbody else know of some chippers, besides zdyne and hondata?

 

so $300 and i get a pr3 with 3 programs... sounds good to me. should i e-mail you to specify what chips i want? where do i send the money order to and how long might it take?

 

[QUOTE]thanks Aaron, you're right PW0 chips are not interchangable with PR3 or vice-versa. (so don't try it will not work)

Hey Adrian, I was wondering when you would post on this thread? I just realized I murderd your username above....EG6ajk... when it's eg6ajk....sorry

 

Im running the PR3 Mugen program right now with a 5400vtec and 8400 rpm, its not a bad program at all on the stock cams. Currently im running ITR cams and the vtec is definitely too low, there is a huge torque dip when the cams change over.

Chip tuning is kind of risky, but can have benefits. The main risks is that you will really never know what kind of conditions the exact program you are running was burned on. It could have been a high compression quad TB motor for all you know, so its very hard to replicate the exact conditions that the specific chip was designed for. Its almost worth it just to use a VAFC and schedule an hour of dyno time, to save yourself the hassle of having to subjectively choosing a chip by means of the butt dyno.

-Todd

 

If you run a p28 that was originaly for a sohc, I dont think you are going to be able to just run a vafc and expect your DOHC motor to run right. For one thing the rev limit is going to be too low. I recently picked up one of the p30 type programs, from Adrian, for my stockish b16 and it is running killer.

 

You are very correct. That is my plan to do some dyno tuning this summer. I will then adjust camshaft timming, fuel pressure, and fine tune with a Apexi VAFC. This will be very interesting. With my build up I had to do something now, I was running too lean, and just needed more fuel.....running one O2 sensor into both inputs is not a good idea.

 

only one program offers that, the Mugen. it disables the the 2nd 02. the problem with disabling bone is that its much harder to tailor maps. why not simply weld in another bung/connect the two 02s and you be more then fine, this will open doors to many programs which are more suited to your application.