which would be faster 4th gen vtec prelude with 140,000 miles on it with i/h/e...or 5th gen prelude SH with low miles and i/h/e?....anyone have proof?

 

it mostly depends on the driver, but most likely the 4th gen should pull ahead easily.

 

4th gen , i have an 1992 4ws vtec swap (SRV) and i take 5th gen's , they are bigger , heavier ,
and use the same engine , well almost the same in terms of HP , I street race them all the time. They think they can win cause i have an older car , u should see there totaly suprised and stupid when i pull away from them with easy.
And even in corners( 4ws) the SH would be hard pressed to fallow .......


Think of it this was , if the 5th gen was a better car then the 4th gen , then we would have a 6th gen right now , but the car didnt improve from 4th gen to 5th gen
it actualy got worse( more expensive and no HP improvment) hance honda cand the good old prelude.


Besides a Prelude is a Prelude no mater and in that the car should be respacted.

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4th gen all day long

 

Equal Drivers:

1. 4th VTEC
2. 5th Base
3. 5th SH

People actually argue about this?


[Modified by satan_srv, 12:54 AM 2/26/2003]

 

First of all, yeah the 4th gen would win. Now...
OT, but: Sorry dude, but get a grip. There were many factors which led to the demise of the Prelude, and it's price was the main one, not the car itself. The 5th gen is slower yes, due to it's weight/gearing, but worse?!? Please. A 5th gen SH in a curve at well over 120 mph would embarrass a 4th gen, and IMO look better doing it.

5th gen: Styling, handling, VTEC engine. Almost $27, 000 for a 2k1 SH!?! <U>That's what killed the Prelude, do your homework before you open your mouth son.</U>

 

At least put why.
Equal Drivers:

1. 4th VTEC - lightest, best geared transmission.
2. 5th Base - lighter than SH, no ATTS, otherwise identical.
3. 5th SH - heaviest of 3, SH's ATTS adds weight but improves handling in turns.

 

...pissing in the wind is fun, nest pas?

 

The weight and gearing aren't the only reason why the 4th gens always seem faster (IMO), I think this because:
4th gen Vtec's always dyno much higher than 5th gens. I believe that 4th gens were underrated from the factory and/or 5th gens were overrated from the factory. 4th gens stock or modded consistantly dyno higher than 5th gens. This isn't going to be due to drive line loss because they have the same drivetrain setup, and the weight and gearing differences between the gens don't make a difference on the dyno. it's very uncommon to see a 4th gen vtec dyno under 160, but I see sub 160 5th gen dyno's a lot.

Just my .02


[Modified by Prelude Styl, 1:10 AM 2/26/2003]

 

Umm 4th gen's were OBD1 5th gen OBD2; there couldn't be a more obvious reason as to why the 4th gen's dyno higher.

 

"Actions speak louder than words"...show me..

 

actually there was one year of obd2 4th gens and yes i noticed about 9 hp converting the car to obd1.

 

why the **** is this argued weekly... it has been determined that since a 4th gen weighs less, is geared lower, and only has 5 less hp, then the 4th gen could beat a 5th gen base in a straight line with equal drivers

and Honda did not discontinue the Prelude b/c the 5th gens "sucked", it was b/c with the ******* tre huggers pushing "ULEV" vehicles, no one wanted a sports car, especially not for that price.... another reason is b/c everything new and invetive that Honda came up with, went on the Lude, some people didn't like the idea of the new technology

there were a lot of factors to why the Prelude died

5th gens still rule b/c they look better, and the SH would EASILY embarass the 4th gen, and even an ITR in the twisties (car and driver even put a few "SuperCars" to shame in the twiesties with an SH )

 

WHOA!!!! I bet there are a few 5th gens on this board that would throw you a serious beating. Anyway, whats up with hating on the fifth gen!!!! and for you to think that people will be able to take you based on the newness of their car just show foolishness and stupidity...... I have a 63 vette over here (MUCH OLDER THAN YOU CAR BTW) if you think just cause your car is newer it'll beat it huh?
btw SH's are hard pressed to fallow.......fallow huh......making up your own words?

 

really??? i can't think of any that could do such a thing

 

i dont understand why there's always gotta be so much trash talkin between the 5th g's and 4ths..i personally like both cars- i like my 4th better and that's all i'm saying. though i do think that the 5ths are the hottness in terms of body styling.
besides...we all know the 3rd gens are clearly the fastest.

--Ray

 

4th gen punkz j00

 

I'm not going to waste my time in finding a bunch of dyno plots proving my opinion. If you don't believe me, fine, don't, these arguments are pointless anyways, this will never be unanimously agreed on, so why bother.


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okay well i'm the allmight prelude god, i've driven them all, raced them all, owned them all, and the 4th gen lude is truly a piece of work, it's bad enough that you guys are arguing about the 4th gen vtec versus the 5th. there is no comparison, if you want to compare equals, compare the 4th gen si to the 5th gen vtec, thats a closer straightline argument, grow up everyone, the 4th gen own3z jOO

 

oh jesus....

 

I've heard that a million times also. No I don't have any dynos to show you, but for what it's worth I raced one that had ( or said he had) the same bolt-ons as mine and he pulled on me.
Damn skippy! I do like the 4th gens though. I'd like to get one one day to play with. Nuff respect.
Only you can get away with that statement here in your supersonic 4th gen KMS.

 

no, you are not the Prelude god... there is no one Prelude "God" their are many of them... i am one, D is another, Todd, Joel, LilDrgn, Anthony, Corey, and a few others..... you are not on that list, you are nothing

what fun is driving fast if you can only go in a straight line?? SH ****** rocks.... a trained monkey can drive a straight line


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what fun is driving fast if you can only go in a straight line?? SH ****** rocks.... a trained monkey can drive a straight line


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OMG Sam, for once I actuall agree w/you...that is the best thing you ever said..

ps..thanks for da quote homie!

 

yes 4th gens are generally faster straight line..this does not necessarily mean they dyno higher. hp is not everything.

ITR's dyno near the same as us...but they can still kick our ***. other things need to be taken into consideration.

where is andrew??

 

not a problem... but keep in on the DL that i am actually an auto-x *****.... wouldn't want any of the other turbo guys to oust me.......