ok im getting a bike as soon as i can period. its down to the R1 or the Gixer, so which one does anyone recomend and why? i like the R1 cuz i think its a bit more visually appealing. also what are the prices and cc's on each. thanx for the help.....


[Modified by CiviChriSiR2, 3:36 AM 6/2/2001]


[Modified by CiviChriSiR2, 3:36 AM 6/2/2001]

 

also what about that suzuki gsx1300r hayabusa? that bike seems fairly bad assed as well. let me know anyone. thanx

 

Is this your first bike? If so, don't get an R1 nor the Gixxer1k.

If not, then my vote is for the Yamaha. It's still the best looking bike from Japan (IMO). It's still plenty fast, even if all the mags are ranking it third (behind the Gixxer and the 929rr). Plus, I read somewhere (someone let me know if this is wrong) that the GSXR line was having some trouble because of parts breaking/failing, mainly due to the fact that Suzuki is trying to shave as much weight as it possibly can from its bikes.

I don't remember exact prices, but the GSXR1k is 998cc. Something to do with GP specs.

Forget about the Hayabusa. It looks like crap. It might be fast as hell, but where are you gonna go 190+mph?!


[Modified by marmaladeboy, 8:43 AM 6/2/2001]

 

Me.... i'd pik the gixxer. It's still new.... so.... I'd wait for a while b4 I get one. Production is zooming.... parts are falling..... ahahah.... nah... that all depends on the dealership....how they bolt their **** on!

On my first brand newbike.....out of the dealership, when I got home I noticed I had 4 screws that fell off my fairings... others were loose.

Choose what ya like..... performance wise... i'll take teh GIxxer.... LoOks -wise.... i'll go bak to my 1996-1999 gixxer!!!!!!... these new ones are ugly.

 

first bike? good luck if thats what you have your heart set on. but id look seriously into a 600 otherwise if you can handle it get the GSXR. much more fun

 

Yeah ,
Anyway, I would go with the Suzuki. Why?
TRANSMISSION

Something has to thin the heard...

 

One of the articles I read actually still choose the R1 over the GSXR, over the 929 and a sad last to the Ninjunk. If you have to ask this question than you won't be able to tell the difference between the two.

The Busa is more of a straigh line machine. It is faster than either the R1 or the GSXR, in a straight line that is. If you like to turn then you had better go with one of the other two.

If you have never ridden before, do yourself a favor and save your life. Start with something smaller. You can scare the living crap out of yourself on something much smaller and hopefully you won't kill yourself in the process.

The first time I took my R6 to the track I had someone that I couldn't pass on the front straight unless I out braked him. He was on a FireBlade. After that session I was talking to him and he appologized for not getting out of my way cause he didn't have the power to out run my R1. You should have seen the look on his face when I told him it was a stock R6!

Don't believe the hype in the magazines, or perhaps I should say read the details. They usually say that this bike is faster on the track, or this bike was fastest with out professional rider. The better articles have some riders that are more like you and I who tell you what they think. In the article that I read that put the R1 in front it was not due to it being faster, but becuase it was easier to ride faster.

In short I would get the R1 becuase it has been around a few years to work out the bugs. Next year I might think about the GSXR 1000. Then again I think that the R1 stepped up the performance level and I love it for that. It may not be the fastest in its class, but it is faster than I can ride and I am pretty good.

Get a F4i or an R6 and learn to be fast, get an R1 or a GSXR and die going fast.

This isn't meant to be harsh, I just seem to be on my soap box today.

 

COme on now, My first bike was a 87 hurricane 600 which I rode for one summer (without crashing) and sold . My secondbike was a 98 gsxr 750 and I'm still alive. Hell, I even have to pdi a 996 with fresh tires once in awhile and I'm still around.
Its all about attitude, I know I'm not Noriuki Haga or Evil Canival and that has always kept me from getting in to deep.
Ok, except for that one time, and maybe that other time, then there was the time when, o forget it... buy a 600... and go to a race school at your nearest track.

 

LOL

 

thanx for the info everyone. yeah it is my first bike. but ive ridden alot on several bikes, an R6, CCBR and NINJA. i know the R1 is a little faster than those. but im getting the bike for these reasons:
generally better performance for the buck, great on gas, cool to look at, fun to ride, get just as many chix as a bike.
i dont have the typicla burr up my *** to do a catwalk at like 120 down the interstate, i doubt ill ever tach it out let alone come anywhere near redline. im getting it basically cuz its cool, not to go 180mph.
thanx for all the advice.

 

Y'know, your money would be better spent on a racing school. And just because it's the newest bike doesn't mean it's the fastest. Well, ok, nevermind. But yeah, look into attending a performance riding school. Whatever bike you choose is up to you. Good luck!

 

i still think your crazy but its your cash and your life. If speed isnt your only concern how come the 929 isnt on your list? I can understand the lack of the Ninja being that it is junk, but no 929? You must want the fastest bike out there. All Honda bikes are of the highest quality level and they far surpass anything that is built by other jap companies.

 

If you are really looking for bang for your buck the 600 are way better. The extra 2-3K you pay for a liter bike is going to be performance that you yourself say you are not going to use. Secondly the gas milage of the liter bikes is not as good as the 600s, that extra performace comes at a cost. Finally you don't have to have the desire now to "do a catwalk at like 120" that doesn't mean that you won't do it some time.

Ultimately we all feel like marmaladeboy, it is up to you and enjoy what ever you get, but you are getting a bike that can get you in trouble way faster than you can get out of it. You have atleast 50 yrs, cumulative, of experiece here and everyone of us is suggesting for your safety that you not get a liter bike. None of us have anything to gain from you getting a 600 over a 1000. It is just all the times that we told ourselves that we wouldn't use the extra performance that the bike had, then we did and either paid some price or scared the crap out of ourselves. Power corrupts, you will use it, and you will use it when you can't handle it. I am a complete adrenaline junkie, I do stupid $hit on my R6 all the time, everytime I think of getting a R1 I think of all the tickets I will get cuase I will do wheelies at every stop, and probably most anytime I am doing less than 100mph, which wom't be often.

Regardless of what bike you get, go to a performance riding school. http://msf-usa.org/pages/MAIN1.html

good luck!


[Modified by Jarrad_r6, 8:24 AM 6/5/2001]

 

dude,
i know exactly what your going through. my first street bike was my 99 Tl1000R i bought new... i'm now on my 4th season and only now can i get my knee down at the track.

What i'm trying to say is your will learn much more at a faster rate on a smaller bike than a 1lr bike. It get's really frustrating trying to be fast on something you dont feel really comfortable on.

My reccomendation for your 1st bike is a 01 f4i in red/white. Easy to ride, killer looks and holds it own on the track.

Definitley invest some money in some track days...

(btw, i bought a 01 R6... i also rode dirt bikes b4 buying the TLR)

 

if you're you're asking questions like those, you might want to rethink bikes that big.. start smaller.. i agree that the cbr600f4i would be a great bike..

 

thanx alot for all the info ill take into account seriously. maybe i will get an r6. i dunno im all about the R1/6 cuz the thing just looks badass. maybe ill get an R6 with an R1 sticker. yay!!!=gay!!!
thanx again for all the knowledge. and believe it or not i wont be doing cat walks. im a big *****.

 

exactly. get a bike because you want to ride, not because you want to get laid. Looks are not everything in a bike. You entrust your life into your wrist on a bike and should think about things other than the looks.

 

Does that qualify as rice? Motorcycle-rice? Like, getting a Mugen decal for a Dodge Neon??

...

 

[QUOTE]ok im getting a bike as soon as i can period.[QUOTE]

I had a similar mentality but my thinking was alot more reasonable (I think). I wanted a bike. I had wanted one for 8 years or so. I was damn close to buy a couple of times. The only requirements were that it be cheap and be a sport bike. Why well, I wanted something to learn on and I wasn't about to dump alot of money into something that there is a good chance I will lay down. (everyone knows how pissed you get when that plastic on your new bike gets all screwed up). The problem I had was that alot of the older 600's are somewhat small and I'm 6'2 so it may be a little uncomfortable at first or after a while. I remember a coworker tell me that as tall as I am I should get a 1litre. I said yeah, I can easil kill myself on a 600 so I damn sure don't need something that larger. I will live with it until the time I'm not taking my turns at 2 mph. How long will that be 1 year 2 years a month, who knows? If I had money to waste and was to go a buy a brand new bike, I would have the VFR Interceptor 800. I fell really comfortable sitting on that bike. I know what you mean by women like bikes. Well if women are your prey and the bike is your weapon of choice, make sure you don't shoot yourself! You can always get a better bike later but you can't change bad experiences once they have happened. I know someone that hopped on a big ST1100 and went a little too aggressive with it. The end result was that the bike was totaled and he had a broken pelvis, femur (thigh bone) and lower leg. If he's lucky it will be a long time before he rides again. And that accident didn't involve another vehicle.

Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Good luck and be safe.

 

OK, Jarad. Newbie question here. What is a Fireblade?

 

The Fireblade is the CBR929RR here in the states. I believe it's only referred to as the Fireblade outside the US?


[Modified by marmaladeboy, 1:38 PM 6/7/2001]

 

I don't recall for sure, however I would hope that this was a 900RR. I could pull about 30 ft on him coming out of the turn onto the front straight, but then it was dead even until he let off for turn 1. I can't say for sure what he was doing as far as shifiting but everytime I came up behind him before the front stretch it was the same story, 30ish feet, dead even then out brake him and go on by for turn one.

Anyway, marmaladeboy is right, it is the CBR9xxRR here in the states.

 

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Engine: liquid-cooled 4-stroke 16-valve DOHC inline-4
Bore x Stroke: 70 x 58 mm
Displacement: 893 cm
Compression Ratio: 11:1
Carburettors: 38 mm slanted flat-side CV type x 4
Max. Horsepower: 124 PS at 10,500 rpm (DIN)
Max. Torque: 9 kg/m at 8,500 rpm (DIN)
Ignition: computer-controlled digital transistorized
with electronic advance
Starter: electric
Transmission: 6-speed
Final Drive: 0-ring sealed chain
Dimensions (LxWxH): 2,030 x 685 x 1,115 mm
Wheelbase: 1,405 mm
Seat Height: 800 mm
Ground Clearance: 130 mm
Fuel Capacity: 18 litres
Wheels: U-section 6-spoke aluminium cast
Tyres: front 130/70 ZR 16 (Bridgestone Battlax BT-50F radial) rear 180/55 ZR17 (Bridgestone Battlax BT-50R radial)
Suspension: front 45 mm stepless rebound adjustable cartridge-type fork, 120 mm axle travel rear Pro-Link with 7-step preload, stepless rebound and compression adjustable CIVSIII damper, 112 mm axle travel
Brakes: front 296 mm dual disc with 4-piston calipers and sintered metal pads rear 220 mm single-piston caliper disc with sintered metal pads
Dry Weight: 185 kg