Shut the f*ck up already! There have been way too many threads recently that just end up gang banging the b16s. I am fine with people saying that the b16 is a torqueless wonder and that its lack of displacement is a big disadvantage, but there are way too many members just saying that b16s suck, end of story. Thats just stupid and uneducated. Are they as good as b18s or LSvtecs? No, of course not, but that doesnt mean you should just rule them out. People still swap in d series motors and get less hate. I can see how for most NA applications, a b16 would have a hard time keeping up with its big brothers, but FI evens out the field. Its pretty damn easy to make 300whp in a snailed b16, and its lack of low and middle end torque might be a blessing in disguise with all the traction problems fwd cars have launching on the street.

Just leave us alone damnit. When I had my JRSC, I didnt hate on all the built NA b18s I was stomping on, its not a fair comparison. When people ask about whether or not they should put a b16 in their car, tell them the differences between the two engines and let them come up with a decision. Dont just bash the 1.6ltr just cause you couldnt do anything with it.

 

i don't see why you have to use such strong words to make your point .. hey the b16a is a great engine but others will have there own love for the others in the b Series line up .. oh well

 

you should take a nap.

 

Someone will always hate

 

dude people talk **** about them because they are common motor. Everyone has a B16!

 

also, we can understand your point without the harsh words.

 

Would have been Happier with Tein Suspension insteed.




[Modified by SpoonSportsEH2, 6:23 AM 2/25/2003]

 

Lol, yeah u'r right i coulda been more tactful with how i wrote it but at least i got my point across. It shouldnt matter that its a common engine, people dont hate on the chevy smallblock just cuz a million other people have one.

You dont have to hate on something cuz you love something else.

 

seems like the only guy it is really bugging is you...kick back..If the b16 is all that, then buy one and prove it


[Modified by Halo, 10:25 PM 2/24/2003]

 

As the saying goes....


To each his/her own....

Whatever makes you happy...

 

remember, money comes into play. we aren't all rich either. i had a b16 and a b18. personally i think both are great to play with. i'm not trying to get the fastest timeslip possible. or else i would have dropped myself from college and started working to make more money concentrate on that. it's a hobby, a preference.

 

Dont be dumb.. a b16 with a jrsc would cost about $4500 to build and put down 220whp with a 8.5lb pulley. On a similar budget, you would be left with $1500 to rework ur engine and there is no way you would make that power. Thats on a realistic budget, if you wanted to go all out with no budget Ill go find you that 450whp jrsc'ed car they built in denmark. This isnt important anyway, you can like ur engine w/o hating on mine.

 

ZC owns all.. DO NOT forget it!!

 

 

I'll agree that the bigger brothers of the B16 have alot of potential, but so does the B16. In the end the 1.8's have more potential, 'nuff said but theres no reason to disrespect someone else's work. They've put time into their car just as you have, and you can know in the back of your head whos gonna have the final say on the street/track... at least I know my B16 won't be in the shop every weekend like alot of LS/VTEC setups out there j/p

 

i agree that people hatin on the b16 is a bit out of hand, but so what. i use it to my advantage. if someone wants to race all i say is that i got a b16 in my car. after i say that its like "ok, i know i can smoke this ***!!!" but in the end its a different story (most of the time). i have it in a eg8 and i still can take out a lot of gsr eg6's. maybe my b16 is just different than the one everyone hates on, but i still think that a b18c1 and c5 is overpriced and i would take a b16 anyday with all my prior racing experiances against eg's with gsr's. b16

 

I beat b16's with my d16.

 

I beleive that...

 

Sohc owns YOUUououo

 

I just dont understand why this needed a Post, there alot of B16 haters. The Key is to Let em talk, cause what people say/Type does not effect you.

 

I hate the B18C5 too with all its hp and torque damnit !!!!

 

Yeah when the 99-00 Si came out I beat the B16A2 all day long in my stock 1992 Si hatch pulling 15.6 on street tires, full interior with only the spare taken out.

My fiancee' has a B16A2 swap in her 1992 Si hatch. It's a great motor, but guys who swap it in and think they can be Billy Street Racer are sorely mistaken.

The B16A is a slow ******* swap compared to the B18 VTEC motors. Sorry but I own 1 of each and the B16A just doesn't compare.

 

welcome to h-t

 

Your comparing a light 5th gen hatch to a heavy 6th gen coupe.

I love my slow swap.

Point is every post about a B16 ends up with someone sayin they are junk and it get's kinda old after a while. They are a fine motor, not as fast as B18c's but they can hold their own and are good for the money.

If you all want to hate then hate on all the bad drivers out there who say the B16 is junk but still run high 14's with their GSR swap

 

Why bash/hate the truth?

People ask b16 or b18 and they get the truth.
I do think there are way to many threads popping up asking between the 2.

But, you can't deny GSR 0wnz b16