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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:34 PM
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Rain, what rain?





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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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c'mon, don't be a snob.
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Great pics of racing, I personally have never raced on a rainy track, just some parking lot autocrossing...
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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NASCAR sucks!!!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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i wouldn't want to drive a car 180+mph in the rain.
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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c'mon, don't be a snob.
Not being snobby. NASCAR machines are exquisitely tuned machines that have ZERO tolerances for changing track conditions. A ten degree track temperature change can throw their supension setup COMPLETELY off. This makes track strategy more important than driver skill. Road racers like the driver to make the difference, not the car.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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Badass, Shawn
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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i wouldn't want to drive a car 180+mph in the rain.
My measure of success was a quote from my instructor - to the best of my recollection ...

"Dude. Say, could you back off JUST a little bit? I don't really want to be going 125 miles per hour on a wet track in a car with no rollbar."

I consider it a compliment to my car preparation.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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how did you do against the rustang? what are the rules for the road racing you are doing?
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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how did you do against the rustang? what are the rules for the road racing you are doing?
This is HPDE, which is basically the stepping stones in NASA up the ladder to competition licensing. It takes a lot of track time to get a comp license in NASA.

You have an instructor, and the object is to learn the limits of the vehicle and go faster and faster as you learn.

Highly recommended for everyone involved. Well worth it if you car is ANY go (rather than show) at all. This is also where suspension and brake upgrades make engine upgrades look worthless.

The chief instructor summed it up like this - "Just because you have more horsepower doesn't mean the rice rocket behind you isn't going to catch you in the turns".

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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Shawn how much does it cost. BTW the first pid is dopenuts, you should use it as your avatar
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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so im guessing you caught him?!..
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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so im guessing you caught him?!..
Yea me too
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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I envy you. I wish I could do that!

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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i wouldn't want to drive a car 180+mph in the rain.
CART does it in the rain as fast if not faster ......and sometimes they even turn right !
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:04 PM
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Shawn how much does it cost.
$30 NASA dues.
This event at VIR was $299 for two days of classes and track time.

www.nasaproracing.com

BTW the first pid is dopenuts, you should use it as your avatar
Thanks. The avatar is from last year's event at VIR. It was a tad bit drier.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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so im guessing you caught him?!..
Nah. During this session we were working on braking and exit speed. Very little passing went on during this session due to conditions (but there was some)

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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I envy you. I wish I could do that!

Scott
If you have the money, check out the site.

www.nasaproracing.com

I think there are events at Mid-Ohio for NASA.

Considering that a good intake and exhaust cost well over the cost of one event, wouldn't you rather have two days of ***** out performance in a safe environment (in your own car, mind you)?

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:23 PM
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My measure of success was a quote from my instructor - to the best of my recollection ...

"Dude. Say, could you back off JUST a little bit? I don't really want to be going 125 miles per hour on a wet track in a car with no rollbar."

haha nice.


i wouldn't want to drive a car 180+mph in the rain.

CART does it in the rain as fast if not faster ......and sometimes they even turn right !
lol. true
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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i agree shawn.....on the nascar thing....i respect them as racer but i'd like to see them race in the rain.....F1 does cart does.....everyone does cept anything that has anything to do with nascrap...

anyways....glad you got back on track....this was yyour 3rd event?
i just got back from laguna seca....ohmy.....soooo nice.....vir is much more fun though....

ps....i had instructors telling me they wanted me to slow down on dry pavement cause i didn't have a cage....next event....cage was in....
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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I'd like to start, but the motor has to come first. My stock one is about ready to give out on me.
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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Sorry shawn...i'm gonna have to **** in your corn flakes...

NASCAR has already developed a wet weather "package" that the teams will use at watkins glen in the event of rain...they just haven't had the opportunity to. The craftsman truck series has though...

http://www.tzenterprises.com/nascar/...ires62599.html

"The first one-hour practice session on the 2.45-mile hilly road course, during which trucks tossed up roostertails of spray, marked the first time Goodyear's all-weather Eagle rain tire has been used in a NASCAR point event and under conditions that historically would have curtailed track activity.

In 1997, the tires were used in practice and qualifying for a NASCAR exhibition race featuring NASCAR Winston Cup Series cars at the Suzuka Circuit in Suzuka City, Japan. After that, the tires and assorted "wet weather" running gear, including taillights, windshield wipers and defrosters were mandated as possibilities for NASCAR Winston Cup Series races. "


Yeah I like Nascar...flame away


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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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I may get flamed but who cares.

NASCAR SUCKS!

bunch of redneck gap-tooths turning left for 3 hours, they dont race in the rain b/c they werent never taught to, as they were never taught to turn right.

You seriously get more enjoyment out of those little radio control cars on the track where all you do is hold down the trigger to make them go.

/rant off
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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I may get flamed but who cares.

NASCAR SUCKS!

bunch of redneck gap-tooths turning left for 3 hours, they dont race in the rain b/c they werent never taught to, as they were never taught to turn right.

You seriously get more enjoyment out of those little radio control cars on the track where all you do is hold down the trigger to make them go.

/rant off
I agree to this...but I still find the daytona and talladega races interesting...oh well if i'm the only one i'll shut up and start talking about my civ
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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I agree, NASCAR sucks! The only good part in NASCAR is when people crash and flip and cars explode. Other than that, its a bunch of redneck white guys going in an oval and making left turns for the rest of their life. I know their is skill behind their racing, but I would LOVE to see a NASCAR driver get behind the wheel of a car driven in the JGTC series! They wouldn't know what the hell to do! And by the way, nice rain pics
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