I am torn between these two for a long time now

I currently have a DC JDM 4-1 and Spoon N1
I plan to get Spoon Headgasket (for compression), and Cam gears and T1R b-pipe

If I do the Toda A, I wouldn't need valve springs and retainers
That money will go towards the P&P

If I do Jun 3, I would need Valve springs and retainers

When you guys give me advice, PLEASE consider reliability, ride quality, price AND emissions

THANKS IN ADVANCE...ANY comments are welcomed

btw, i did a search...the info on P&P is not too abundant in our forum


[Modified by Type-Rare#1248, 11:02 PM 2/24/2003]

 

you should list what are your priorities first... ie. purpose, power, reliability, cost, emissions, etc.

 

Priority:
#1: Power (doesnt matter midrange or topend)
#2: Reliability
#3: Emissions
#4: Ride quality
#5: Price

 

you vancouver boys are too much
$$$ is never problem

 

then sell your header and exhaust, buy an SMS full system, cause unless you add some tuning device to your list, the SMSP system will probably give just as much gain without any chance for fuggin up your motor on install....

 

I was just about to say the same thing, if you dont plan on tuning it, chances are the sms header will make just as much power as those cams.

Arno-Who finally has enough $$ and has PMed Mr. Stadulis on price for a header.

 

JUN 3's

 

You will be getting way more power with Jun 3s.

You will pass emissions with both cams. Both cams are very reliable.

 

Toda A dude crazy mid range power and driving is great

 

why dont you sell your ITR head for a grip buy a b16a head and have it P&P'd, casue all a ITR head is an semi P&P'd b16a they are all pr3
with the extra money have the b16a P&P'd and get some bigger cams and new valve springs to rev higher on.

 

sorry i forgot to add the tuning part but I will definitely get my car tuned

 

using what?

 

do you mean Jun 3 is way better than Toda A + P&P?

One of the places I consider getting my stuff is AJR...do you guys sell Jun's?
anyway do you have any warranty on your work (i understand that you guys have a good reputation on workmanship )


[Modified by Type-Rare#1248, 11:07 PM 2/24/2003]

 

using greddy emange or Vafc

my local dyno shop encourages emanage cuz they said it's better

 

you should look into EF-1 cams!!!! they make a variety of different specs for your app. they make damn nice power and very good midrange

 

hmmm never looked into that...are they reliable cuz i dont want my cams shattering on me

 

yes indeed they are. check out http://www.ef-1.com for more info on them, they have a forum with info on the cams and Rocket will answer any question you have

 

up

 

emanage and afc do the same thing

 

Kind of a thread hijack here... but at Toda B's too extreme for daily driving? (Without sacrificing reliability and such, or are A's better for daily use?)

 

the closer to stock the cam is, the better it is for you guys and your "daily driving"

 

haha...in that case toda a

I choose not to include toda b in my choice because they don't idle too well (if tuning isn't great) and they put a lot of stress on the valve train (not too sure, but read it from import builders)...also, I have heard bad stories of timing belt snapping

 

If you run B's you should do it correctly to avoid problems, i.e. timing belt, toda springs, gears, etc. You also shouldn't bother if you are running stock compression. They can be made to idle and run daily, but you will need good engine management too. Don't half-*** it.

 

I'd have no problem getting a set of toda A's and a toda timing belt... think that would sacrifice any reliability?

 

no need for the toda belt, or aftermarket springs with toda As
just need two sets of intake springs