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USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done?

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Default USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done?

I have a 1992 Si and I am going to be getting a 5 lug, hopefully soon. I have my stock motor and do plan on getting a swap in the distant future. I would prefer a USDM 5 lug but I may have to buy a JDM one. Will my stock USDM D series axels be compatible with a USDM ITR 5 lug? Anyone know how big the spline on the axels is? If its 32 mm it should be compatible right? If I get JDM D series axels would it work with a JDM 5 lug? 36 mm and 36 mm? TIA.

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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 04:09 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

yes they will work without a problem.

JDM 98+ SpecR ITR uses a 36mm outer joints (they can be swapped onto the d-series axles - as in JDM DOHC ZC only - not the usual uneqal lenght shafts found in SOHC) EDIT

JDM CTR is identical to USDM ITR and works without a problem as well





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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Ok thanks...but how could they both work because the two you just said would BOTH work have different hub sizes, JDM ITR is 36 mm, JDM CTR (USDM ITR) is 32 mm, how could the both work? I'm confused.

EDIT: I didn't mean to sound rude in this post, I'm just kind of frustrated from all the diff. answers I've gotten to this Q.


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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:19 AM
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bump for a legit question...
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:28 AM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

From what he is saying and what I would assume, you could take your d series axle apart and swap on the 5 lug outer piece. I know a d series axxle will swap into a GSR or LS hub, not sure on a type R though.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (White Lightnin)

From what he is saying and what I would assume, you could take your d series axle apart and swap on the 5 lug outer piece. I know a d series axxle will swap into a GSR or LS hub, not sure on a type R though.
That's it exactly. All D series trannys, USDM ITR 5-lug and JDM CTR use the 32mm axle diameter at the hub, so they are all interchangeable (ie. can use a d-series axle for a USDM ITR 5-lug swap). But if you use the JDM ITR (36mm) with your d-series, you'll have to take apart the axles.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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Ok so if I get a USDM 5 lug or CTR 5 lug (both 32 mm) the conversion would be plug and play and my USDM D series axels will plug right into the hub. If I get a JDM ITR swap I need to also get JDM ITR axels and take aport both my axels and the JDM ITR axels and put the ITR 36 mm outer piece on my D series axel. Is that correct?

Is there any difference between the CTR and ITR 5 lug conversions other than the hub sizes?

Anyone know where I can find a CTR 5 lug conversion or a USDM ITR 5 lug? I have only been able to locate JDM 5 lugs.

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

CTR or USDM 5lug will work

*JDM ITR 5lug will not work
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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So I can't swap out the part of my USDM axel that goes into the hub for a 36 mm one...period?
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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CTR or USDM 5lug will work

*JDM ITR 5lug will not work
CTR 5lug 32mm= Dseries hub axle size
USDM ITR 5lug 32mm= Dseries hub axle size

JDM ITR 5lug 36mm= no can do

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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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So I can't swap out the part of my USDM axel that goes into the hub for a 36 mm one...period?
i've heard people hybriding the outter part of a prelude or 91 accord (i believe) axle. but i wouldnt do it.
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Drunk-N-Munky)

Thank you very much, that cleared up everything.

I just have no idea where I can find a USDM 5 lug or a CTR 5 lug
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

classifieds or http://www.passwordjdm.com
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:36 PM
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I checked, all I could find was a JDM ITR at passwordjdm.com
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:43 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

I just have no idea where I can find a USDM 5 lug or a CTR 5 lug
PM the one we know as b18c5_powered_si he has great stuff and is a trustworthy seller , he's been here forevaaaaaaaaaaaah too
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (eg6ajk)

to answer your other question about the larger axlenut axles and retaining a D series motor/axles......
JDM 98+ SpecR ITR uses a 36mm outer joints (they can be swapped onto the d-series axles)
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Old Feb 25, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

only the CTR and USDM ITR will fit with D series axles. the jdm ITR axles are 36mm, not 32
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (Chiller514)

What about JDM B16a Axels into the 96 spec ITR brake hub, the 4x114.3?
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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Default Re: USDM/JDM ITR 5 lug Conversion and D series motor....can it be done? (KOALA YUMMIES)

What about JDM B16a Axels into the 96 spec ITR brake hub, the 4x114.3?
96-7 spec 4x114.3 ITR setup uses a 'standard' 32mm axles no worries in using this setup.
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Old Mar 5, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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So I can't swap out the part of my USDM axel that goes into the hub for a 36 mm one...period?

i've heard people hybriding the outter part of a prelude or 91 accord (i believe) axle. but i wouldnt do it.
Prelude cv joints.
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