check this out http://www.importbuilders.com/nopreludes.html

 

man thats just low.....Too busy to take a Lude??? thats just ******* retarted

 

I don't see the problem. Working on a prelude sucks compared to working on a civic. Besides, I'm sure that they make plenty of money working on B-series motors.

 

The problem that I see is that if you have a problem with one of their crated motors (aka it wasn't assembled properly) you should be able to bring it in to get it diagnosed at a premium or they have a policy that if you get a reputable shop to diagnose it and it deemed the engine builder's fault then they should front the bill to have it replaced and the labor to fix it. Most shops that I know would want to do the work internally so it's hours instead of $$.

Also, another thing that I see that's wrong with it is that Jeff, who owns importbuilders, was one of the huge supporters for the H22a motor. Always going on and on about it's potential. Now, it's a slap in the face for the H22 (since I'm assuming that most of the problems are electric) in the end. Though in the end, I've never really been impressed with the way the company has been run in any case. There are better shops in so-cal than importbuilders.

 

all I have to say is that import builders blows! I've heard bad stuff from them and I don't think that their shop is all that, afterall there not only shop that can build or tune a motor.

 

**** importbuilders.... to damn bad they won't learn how to work on something slightly more complicated than those POS B series ****

 

Thats ok,im sure Prospeed will be willing to take care of business

 

I agree w/ laughinxxx, it's true, like I said before... nobody besides prelude owners likes working on prelude engines. It really isn't in a shop's best interest to do it. Unless they are very familiar with the ins and outs of the engine and have previous experience with it, it's much more cost-effective for them to work on something else.

My friend owns a shop so he did the work for me, but yeah, his techs joke around w/ me, please no more prelude work. haha

 

I cannot beleive this bullshit. That is truly pathetic. They sell h-series parts wont work on them.

 

Have yall ever dropped an H22 tranny or pulled the engine. If you haven't you seriously have no place to speak. It is truly a PITA to do either.

 

Yes, and I vow never to do it again, and honestly, there were moments where I HATED my car... but I forgave it when it started boosting

 

Exactly. notice that you are the only one agreeing with me. I did my clutch last month. It was a royal PITA, but it had to be done. I wanted to rip everything out of the engine bay seeing as how I had already cleared out the pass. side of the engine bay and most of the back of the block.

 

How does the H23 compare in difficulty to all these PITA problems with the H22s you guys speak of?

 

It's not a problem it's just harder to work on. There are more brackets to remove and more comforts like PS, AC, and ABS to mess with and get around. It's just a big engine in a small, compact space.

 

So it's the *access* to the engine that they're bitching about, not any inherent flaw in the H22 itself.

 

shiet.... there isn't much less room to work on an Prelude than there is on a DOHC civic or a teg..... and there is a HELL of a lot more room to work under the hood than on an RSX or a nee Si

 

my H made 667hp no problem I also build B's, our street car with a blown head gasket made 565hp and it a B. A motor's a motor and it doesnt matter what car its in. If a shop cant figure it out then ther jobs will be limited,

 

That's what I'd assume.

 

the way i see it is if their is more labor involved in doing a particular job on a car, then charge accordingly. dont abandon it becuase its more work. just charge for the work that you are doing. GR is the H series man!!!!oh and b series too. he built the street car too!!!

 

I actually have to agree with importbuilders on this one.......H series motors (and F series for that matter) are a MUCH bigger PITA than the B and D series......they have their processes specialized to mostly B series, and there are PLENTY of those to do work on......
At least they were specific about what they won't work on Our shop just has a general policy that if you're a jackass or hardcore ricer we won't work on your car....
I've been to their shop and it's pretty normal and respectable as far as shops go Cleanroom in the back for engines, in house dyno, etc......they had engines just sitting all over the place, which isn't my style, but whatever works....
Brian

 

i swaped in my h22 it want bad at all, the only complaint is anything to do with the timing belt is a pain in the *** other then that no biggie

 

amen brotha

 

cake!!

 

that's pretty gay. the only difference with that motor is limited space.

 

The only problem i see with the timing belt change is the auto tensioner.But i changed mine to a h23 manual tensioner.Now its a breeze to work on...And mine is in a civic!!