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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 04:32 AM
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I have a '97 Accord 5-spd VTEC and will be adding a custom turbo kit to it. I would like to convert my motor to OBD-1. Has anyone done this successfully and what is involved ? Any downfalls to it ? I have a fully loaded accord and would hate to lose any functionality....
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:40 AM
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I have a '97 Accord 5-spd VTEC and will be adding a custom turbo kit to it. I would like to convert my motor to OBD-1. Has anyone done this successfully and what is involved ? Any downfalls to it ? I have a fully loaded accord and would hate to lose any functionality....
well i was going to be doing the exact oposite since I was getting a new F23a1 into my 4thgen.
what i was told was that the parts you'll need is ODD1(distributor, injectors, ecu,....and altenator?)
I'm not sure about the wiring if the harness i spoke with blownhatch and he said i should contack kenji for info on that.

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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 05:49 AM
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all you need is get the adapter harness from hondata to convert your obdII to obdI. Also you will need a 94-95 obdI manual ecu. Those are the major parts. You might need other little odds and ends.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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if your just going from obd2 ecu to an obd1 ecu
i can sell you a conversion harness for 175 and all you do is plug up your ecu and thats it.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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if your just going from obd2 ecu to an obd1 ecu
i can sell you a conversion harness for 175 and all you do is plug up your ecu and thats it.
That's great! But.... My real question is... what else is involved to do a successful conversion. I know there is more to it than just swapping ECU's. Is there anyone here that has done this conversion successfully ??
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:54 PM
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its a conversion harness and new ecu
thats it

the harness will do all the work for you and youll need the new ecu
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 04:19 AM
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its a conversion harness and new ecu
thats it

the harness will do all the work for you and youll need the new ecu
OBD-1 distributors are rotatable to manually set ignition timing. Because OBD-2 accords have their timing totally controlled by the ECU.. they replaced the distributor with one that was NOT adjustable. With this in mind, I'm assuming I will need an OBD-1 distributor.. and possibly different injectors..

I appreciate your reply, however I think you are wrong in saying that all I need to do is swap ECU's.

Can someone with experience on this project enlighten us ??

Thanks in advance.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 09:45 AM
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WOW. No one here knows anything about this! You noobs!

j/k

bump! need an answer!


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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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I appreciate your reply, however I think you are wrong in saying that all I need to do is swap ECU's.
Can someone with experience on this project enlighten us ??
Thanks in advance.
sorry its just that i sell the harness and well some would think i nkow what i am talking bout.. go figure.. good luck
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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WOW. No one here knows anything about this! You noobs!
Maybe the people here are smart enough not to convert back. Pretty pointless to do so.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Maybe the people here are smart enough not to convert back. Pretty pointless to do so.
unless their going with a Hondata setup. but for the money you'd spend to convert to obd1 and buy the system, you could just get the AEM ecu and spend what money you have left over (if any, probably a little) on getting it tuned. IMHO.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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Pretty much what I meant.

Hondata doesnt have near the capability that the EMS has, but its the same price if you throw in the conversion and all the headaches.

They need to lower their prices or come up with a system that doesnt require the conversion to OBDI.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Hondata doesnt have near the capability that the EMS has, but its the same price if you throw in the conversion and all the headaches.

They need to lower their prices or come up with a system that doesnt require the conversion to OBDI.
agree 100%.
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Old Feb 21, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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I have a '97 Accord 5-spd VTEC and will be adding a custom turbo kit to it. I would like to convert my motor to OBD-1. Has anyone done this successfully and what is involved ? Any downfalls to it ? I have a fully loaded accord and would hate to lose any functionality....
can't think of any downfalls at all... Skunk2 offers an ECU conversion harness... "This conversion harness offers a pain free alternative for owners of 1996-2001 Honda/Acura vehicles hindered by the factory OBDII ECU. This conversion harness, along with an OBDI ECU, will convert the vehicle to OBDI. Simply plug one side of the harness into the OBDI ECU, and the other side to the factory engine harness. No cutting or soldering is needed..." Application includes 96-99 Accords as well as 00-01 Accords... MSRP is $265.63 but i'm sure you can find a deal on it somewhere... try one of the dealers on honda-tech or maybe groupbuycenter... now you just need to find an OBDI ECU for cheap...

www.skunk2.com
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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I have a '97 Accord 5-spd VTEC and will be adding a custom turbo kit to it. I would like to convert my motor to OBD-1. Has anyone done this successfully and what is involved ? Any downfalls to it ? I have a fully loaded accord and would hate to lose any functionality....


can't think of any downfalls at all... Skunk2 offers an ECU conversion harness... "This conversion harness offers a pain free alternative for owners of 1996-2001 Honda/Acura vehicles hindered by the factory OBDII ECU. This conversion harness, along with an OBDI ECU, will convert the vehicle to OBDI. Simply plug one side of the harness into the OBDI ECU, and the other side to the factory engine harness. No cutting or soldering is needed..." Application includes 96-99 Accords as well as 00-01 Accords... MSRP is $265.63 but i'm sure you can find a deal on it somewhere... try one of the dealers on honda-tech or maybe groupbuycenter... now you just need to find an OBDI ECU for cheap...

www.skunk2.com
lol laughs.. and whistles... same thing i posted two or three times.. and we're the noobs lol
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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we're the noobs lol
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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i have a friend that tried the conversion. you dont just get the ecu and the jumper. theres alot more involved for sure.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:10 PM
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Yea I did this swap to my car about a week ago and it didnt go so well. I bought the Ecu and the jumper and plugged it all in and the car wouldnt even start. Finally i got it to start and then it ran like ****. Someone was saying how the timing or something was different. I even heard of the crank angle sensor being different. Any ideas?
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 05:18 AM
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The OBDI's dont have the crank or TDC sensors.

Your conversion harness should take care of that though (wont have wires for them).
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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i have a friend that tried the conversion. you dont just get the ecu and the jumper. theres alot more involved for sure.
what car does your friend have..? and which ecu did he get..? if there's a lot more involved for sure, what was involved..?
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 08:06 PM
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I'm the friend that (Ratherbewalking) was talking about. I have a 97 Accord LX. And I bought his 94 Accord LX ECU along with a jumper. Did not run right at all. Did not even idol without me holding the gas down a bit. So then I tried plugging in other ECU's like off a civic DX and a Teg-LS. They both idoled fine but of course they are going to make my car run lean. I even tried a h23 ECU. That worked at idol also but made my car a lil rich and brought up the check engine light. Oh well. Oh and the ECU that I got from the 94 Accord LX was not bad, we plugged it in my friends Integra and it idoled fine. Anyone have a clue to what was wrong?
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Old Feb 23, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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best bit is to contact the guys that made it

the company that makes my harnesses for me. have only had one problem. and they send out a new one and emailed the customer back and forth, till it was fixed. even gave a partical refund for the R&D side of it
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 04:56 AM
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WOW. No one here knows anything about this! You noobs!


Maybe the people here are smart enough not to convert back. Pretty pointless to do so.
It's no mystery that OBD-1 ecu's react much better to modifications to your vehicle. Especially when you're talking forced induction. How have you gotten around that with your OBD-2 system ?
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Old Feb 24, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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I'm the friend that (Ratherbewalking) was talking about. I have a 97 Accord LX. And I bought his 94 Accord LX ECU along with a jumper. Did not run right at all. Did not even idol without me holding the gas down a bit.
which jumper did you get..? skunk2..? if all the ECUs don't work on your car, then i'm assuming that your car is still running shitty..? no offense but maybe you should bring it to an import shop where they have experience with the jumper/wiring...
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Old Feb 27, 2003 | 11:03 PM
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Other ECU's did work fine. The only thing was that they were smaller displacements so they did not give me enough fuel. The only one that ran like total *** was the 94 Accord LX.
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