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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 01:11 AM
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Well the GS-R earned a lil more charactor this afternoon. We were traveling on the highway when this sound came smashing from the underbody. I did myself a huge favor and puilled off the road ASAP. From the sound under the hood to the feeling in my gut, I knew we were potential in trouble

I opened the hood to this:





I got a lil tow home(that cost $80.), and went to work.

I discovered the culprit:

A timing cover bolt shook loose and imbedded itself into the botom of the cover, shreading the belt as it passed through the cover.









The SOB tore my timing belt in half



I was lucky enough to have a brand spanking new timing belt on hand and immediatly addressed the problem. Somehow I was lucky enough to have not ripped it completly apart, with the load I was pulling I was assured to have found my valves floating in the oil pan.

Moral: Use loctite, the small **** gets you everytime.
**** on me for having torque monster


[Modified by sinister, 2:12 AM 2/18/2003]


[Modified by sinister, 2:13 AM 2/18/2003]
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 01:16 AM
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Glad to see only the timing belt was screwed. I'll be changing the timing belt on my GSR motor when it arrives. I'll be picking up some loctite today
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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Ouch, just be thankful it didn't snap completely.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 01:18 AM
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damn little bugger hence the fate of my ac condensor hahaha
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:07 AM
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It's always the "little" things that get ya!

I had a rattling noise in the engine bay, but couldn't figure out where it came from? So one day, my clutch decides not to engage anymore, so I was forced to pull the tranny. Found out that one of the pressure plate bolts backed out and was rattling around and finally wedged itself by the release bearing (hence the clutch not working). It took quite a beating too, luckily it didn't take out my tranny.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:11 AM
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Damn that was a close call, i just changed my timing belt a few months ago, i hope ill be good for a while.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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Default Re: The reason you *should* use loctite...T-belt PICS inside (4doorB18Bcivic)

That happened to my friend, only it was the tensioner spring, it made 2 deeeep grooves in the belt.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 05:34 AM
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sounds like you guys need to tighten bolts better. I have done countless timing belts on countless Hondas and never even looked at a tube of loctite. You're probably going to talk ****, but bolts like these don't "work" themselves out. Most likely you didn't tighten them to the torque spec.

And the torque of you motor has NOTHING to do with it.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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Never seen that happen before, but that was CLOSE. glad it wasn't worse
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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sounds like what happened on my timing belt. One week after having the motor broken in, i took it for a statewide trip. After returning home, i noticed a 1/8" strand off the end of the belt was missing. Figured it would hold til i took it in to get replaced the next morning. WRONG. By the time i arrived at the shop, only half the belt remained. They tore everything down, but could not find a culprit. Turns out whatever fell in, broke out the bottom lip of the block next to the belt and exited on its own, but not without scarring up the crank gear. Luckily, i had a spare gear from the previous motor to replace it with. I still don't know what it was, but i check my belt on a regular basis now.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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sounds like you guys need to tighten bolts better. I have done countless timing belts on countless Hondas and never even looked at a tube of loctite. You're probably going to talk ****, but bolts like these don't "work" themselves out. Most likely you didn't tighten them to the torque spec.

And the torque of you motor has NOTHING to do with it.
Well when your mounts are on the way out and you use a 6 puck things tend to want to come loose. This is'nt the first bolt I've had shake down, and everthing gets spec in my garage.

Your experiences would tell you that those cover bolts are very tempremental, meaning that if you over tighten you will strip them...hence the fact that one should consider using a bonding agent
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 07:57 AM
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I think it would be wise to use lock tite myself.

Wow, that is the first time I've seent hat happen! Well, at least nothing happened and you were able to fix the problem
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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same thing happened to my buddys b16, but it endeed up cracking off half of the intake cam gear
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:33 AM
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oh man well at least you caugh the problem on time before anything happened

my friend had the same problem good thing it was on my driveway...a freakin piece of concrete somehow fell into the lower timing belt cover and was eating away at the belt and good thing we shut off the car in time....

i dont know about the loctite, i thought ppl usually put loctite on things that spin fast. ex: flywheel bolts, but if you say you get a lot of vibration from 6 puck clutch and a torquey motor, then that sounds about right
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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One of the nice things about break-away loctite is it's various uses, it's like duct tape, you could use it anywhere, it wont hurt anything and it simply "Breaks away" when you need it to
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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*runs to check these bolts and put lock tite on them*
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Glad to hear you nipped the problem in the bud, it could have definitely been worse.
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Loc-Tite TASTES pretty darn good too. Many instances after using it that I licked my fingers and was like whoooaahhhh sugar high!!

Well I figure my ls has like 80-100 some ft lbs of torgue, so that's why I need to torgue my lugnuts to 80. Hehehe JOKE!!
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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How the hell does that happen? Did you remove the top part of the cover? The cam belt should be completely covered by the plastic and if the bolt backed out, it should have fallen straight on the ground.

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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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The top part was off due to maintence, so the bolt just dropped in there like a slot machine
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