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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Sorry to ask such a newbie question, getting kind of bored...

I have a 1995 Integra LS 4-door 5-speed. What kind of WHP numbers should I expect to need to push out to run a 14.0 second quarter-mile? I'm modding my car for autocross, and am thinking of going turbo at the end of the season... so what kind of numbers???

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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go ls vtec with itr piston
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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if your going autocross why are you worried about 1/4 mile time?? just a question but dont only take power into consideration, think about saving weight as well...just a thought.. good luck though
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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i would say around 190, give or take . However you have to remember there are other factors involved in getting to 14flat, ie:tires, track, driver, tranny
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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I would agree with 190 on stock tranny and clutch.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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i would say like around 180whp should get you atleast 14.00 in the 1/4
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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I think 180 would get you 14.0 on a GSR due to the tranny and such...I just feel like it would take a bit more power for an LS to do it.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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With ACT HDSS Clutch and Clutchmasters 9lb Flywheel, Fluidyne Radiator, and a SEDAN that weighs 80 POUNDS MORE than a coupe... with some nice lightweight (12 pound) 15"x7" track wheels outfitted with Falken Azenis or Bridgestone Potenza S-O3 rubber...

180 whp would do it? So my goal of a 200 whp shoestring-budget DIY-junkyard turbo would plant me in the 13 second category?

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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wow that chick is ****** hot, how much for a quick ****?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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You'd have to email Victoria's Secret and ask; she's a new model there.

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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try taking your pass. seat, rear seat, & trunk stuff out, including your spare tire.
this might help you shave about 2/10 of a second or so.
also try getting lighter wheels, and if you can get smaller diameter tires and wheels. this will help u accelerate a lot quicker. see if you can get some 13'' steelies off of a civic hatch, then throw some 175 60 13 tire on there or something of the sort.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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wow that chick is ****** hot, how much for a quick ****?
dam ***** i been readin your posts latley...you seem sexually deprived or somthin..i hear ************ takes care of that tho..hah good luck
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:08 PM
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hahaha

Throw some nitrous on there if you want to run a 1/4

strip everything out and then Turbo it...probably the easiest/cheapest way.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:39 PM
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200 WHP in a 4 door pullin 14.0? I dunno. Dan from g2ic has i think 204 WHP in a hatchback 92 GSR he pulled 13.8 with slicks. maybe 225-230 for the 4 door. maybe im wrong
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.
Agreed. But on an LS, I'm pretty sure you'd need 190. Don't you think?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.
very true, yall are trippin its not hard to get into 14's. a zex kit = 14, some drag radials and descent hp = 14's, any kinda turbo kit should get you 14'(if not get a refund stat), I mean come on guys 14's is not hard.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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i/h/e/clutch/flywheel/cams/interior stripped should net 14s in an LS. who cares about what a GSR can put down, this post is about an LS.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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... who cares about what a GSR can put down, this post is about an LS.
hah Yeah one for Threatcon13
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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With ACT HDSS Clutch and Clutchmasters 9lb Flywheel, Fluidyne Radiator, and a SEDAN that weighs 80 POUNDS MORE than a coupe... with some nice lightweight (12 pound) 15"x7" track wheels outfitted with Falken Azenis or Bridgestone Potenza S-O3 rubber...

180 whp would do it? So my goal of a 200 whp shoestring-budget DIY-junkyard turbo would plant me in the 13 second category?

Ben
save your money on the radiator and buy some good tires if you want to hit low 14's.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:50 PM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.

very true, yall are trippin its not hard to get into 14's. a zex kit = 14, some drag radials and descent hp = 14's, any kinda turbo kit should get you 14'(if not get a refund stat), I mean come on guys 14's is not hard.
You're right, 14's are not hard. 14.00 is much, much closer to 13's, wouldnt you say so
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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how much weight would be saved on a civic radiator vs integra radiator?

just a drunk thought
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.

very true, yall are trippin its not hard to get into 14's. a zex kit = 14, some drag radials and descent hp = 14's, any kinda turbo kit should get you 14'(if not get a refund stat), I mean come on guys 14's is not hard.

You're right, 14's are not hard. 14.00 is much, much closer to 13's, wouldnt you say so

ok low *** 14's it can still be done with just a nitrous kit, and some azenis. my homies hatch with a bone stock gsr ran 13.7 with a shitty launch and some average street tires. Another friend ran 13.8 with a farely stock typeR motor in a gsr with a decked head, and the obvious (headers intake exhuast. dont get me wrong 14.0 is koo especially for a daily driver, well I take it back now that I think about it I personally dont like nitrous, so it does require more than just a few bolt ons for a gsr to run 14.00
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Old Feb 18, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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A GS-R pushin 175wHP with some nice tires and quick shifting could get it to 14.00's or even high 13's.

Agreed. But on an LS, I'm pretty sure you'd need 190. Don't you think?
You can't really say "X amount of HP = XX 1/4 mile time for a LS", since powerband plays a huge part. 180whp from forced induction is going to be faster than 180whp NA due to the broader powerband.

Speaking NA

The LS has a completely different powerband than the GSR. Since it has slightly more displacement, it has more torque down low (in fact, stock for stock the LS makes more HP than a GSR up till 6,000rpm).

A LS with 150whp will out accelerate a stock GSR with 150whp because of the much broader powerband. Since the B18B is not going to be reving to 8k to generate HP like the B18C, its going to have more torque throughout the rpm to get that much peak HP.

So provided he gets a shorter geared tranny, it would probably take less whp to get his LS to 14s than it would a GSR.

The problem is, its much harder to get high HP numbers with a B18B than a B18C1.
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