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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Default Different ways to test whats causing CEL 41?

What are different ways to test out this code? Code 41 = (Primary Oxygen Sensor) - Heater circuit malfunction.

I've looked at the wires and the o2 sensor but they seem to test out ok. What eles could this be? I've had this CEL for a while and just want all the codes to go away before I dyno tune this thing
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 04:36 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:38 PM
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send it to a mechanic
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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Clear codes ans start the car. If the check engine comes on immediatly then you need a new primary o2 sensor. You can't be wrong with that.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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make sure the 2 black wires at the o2 sensor are still in the plug and making a
good connection. too many times those wires just fall out for some reason.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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I tried it with 2 different 02 sensors and the light comes on right away after I cleared it.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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I looked at all the wires and the connections are all good, nothing loose.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Is there a way I can test the 02 sensor with a multimeter? If so what readings should I get...
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:05 AM
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perhaps check and make sure you are getting power from the O2 wire on the wiring harness.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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How do I check that on the multimeter?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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What car?? I'm guessing that you didn't have to convert from a 1 pin to a 4 pin oxygen sensor... Atleast if you don't have an EG with one or something.. If you have an OBD2 forget that i ever said anything about it... I was just wondering because you'll get a heater code if you have the polarity mixed up on the heater wires, but if you didn't have to mess with the wiring then that is not the problem... This is what I would do, continuity test the wires from the oxygen sensor plug back to the ECU pigtails just as shown below... Sorry about the shitty quality but i Just drew up the diagram really quick... Good Luck and lemme know if you need anything else..
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Is there a way I can test the 02 sensor with a multimeter? If so what readings should I get...
Damn, hahahha I took a long time to write that post^^^^ I started after sgT posted
EDIT: Sorry, I also forgot to mention that you use the DMM to test for continuity in case you didn't know that... hehehehe Also make sure the car is ignition is off when testing... Latez


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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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How do a continuity test? What setting should I have my multimeter on?

I'm new to the multimeter so sorry about the questions.
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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Don't worry about it.... it's all good... The continuity setting is just a setting when there is a closed circuit, mine and most DMM's will beep when you have continuity... Touch the two probing leads together and go through the settings if you are unsure.... Here's a pic of my cheap one.... I'm just showing you this one because it has a lot less settings than my other one... It works just the same tho... As you can see it's the top setting and it says "CONT"....
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Thanks your the man! I will go to the garage and check it out
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:08 AM
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jdm_***, what in the **** are you doin???
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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If you replace the o2 sensor, your problems will dissappear
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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If you replace the o2 sensor, your problems will dissappear
I tried it with 2 different 02 sensors and the light comes on right away after I cleared it.
He already tried different oxygens sensors...
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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OK I just tested the wires and they all tested out ok (they all beeped). So whats the next step?

BTW I have a JDM B16 (obd1) in my 92 Si hatch.


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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:25 AM
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See I dont know if the other 02 sensor I bought is good (used), is there a way to make sure the o2 is bad?


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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Okay, well that's good... That means all your interior wiring is good... My guess is the oxygen sensor then... I guess you'll just need to try another one... I don't really know how you could test the O2 itself, but atleast everything else is straight.... Good Luck
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http://www.lakeeffectperformance.com...ns&product=428

Would the o2 sim work my problems?
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Is there a way I can test the 02 sensor with a multimeter? If so what readings should I get...
The resistance of the O2 heater should be 10-40 ohms. Measure between the black wires on the sensor.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 04:17 AM
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take a multimeter and measure the resistance of the heater circuit. It should be 14 Ohms, any thing other then that will cause the engine light to go on.
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