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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:25 PM
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I have been doing a lot of reading tonight, and most of it leads me to believe that my CRX (with K&N filter in stock location and a performance muffler) should be able to fit into the Street Prepared category. (http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/index.html what seems to be the entire rule book)

However, what provoked this investigation was the Milwaukee scca site. http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/carclass2003.pdf
That chart lists cars and tells what class they are eligible for. I scrolled down to CRX, and to my surprise, the CRX seems to only be eligible for SM2 (street modified 2).....a CRX can't even fit into stock class? I would have thought that if I didn't have the exhaust on my CRX, even I could get into stock class.

for those beginners as I was at the beginning of the night, here are a few sites that I found particularly helpful.
http://www.scca.org/amateur/solo2/classes/
http://moutons.org/sccasolo/Rules/index.html (yeah yeah, already in the H-T road race/autocross faq)
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/carclass2003.pdf
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/carclassing.html
and finally, the Honda-Tech Road Racing/Autocross FAQ itself. (https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=353425)

Thanks so much for any help classifying my car.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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aargh, minutes after I posted that, I found this that makes it seem that my car with the forementioned modifications can still be in Stock class.
Stock class is for unmodified street vehicles. The rules allow you to use certain aftermarket parts for wearable items. Replacement shocks, brake pads, plugs/wires and air filters are 'free'. Any wheel can be used as long as it's the same diameter and width as stock and has the stock offset within +/- .25 inch. You may replace the front sway bar and use a cat back exhaust. You may not use a chip, headers, cone type air filter or cut/replace/lower your suspension springs.
http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/soloinfo.html
why the varying info?

and I still want to know what that other site was saying about the specific classification of the CRX. (this site---)http://www.scca-milwaukee.org/Solo/carclass2003.pdf
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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Default Re: SOLO 2 CRX Classification (CRXSi90)

there's a link for car classification in the forum FAQ
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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by looking at the rough guidelines (I was looking at the complete text before, what a workout for the eyes ), it looks like I'll fit in the Street Touring - S category for all but having four seats. " (four seats, four factory seatbelts, not sports-car derived) "

--?could that be the possible reason why I can only fit into Street Modified 2?--
"Street Modified 2 is a new optional Regional class beginning in 2002. It has similar rules to SM, but allows 2-seater cars, and cars too light or small to qualify for SM."

Wow, it looks like I found my answer. I'd be running with (or falling behind if you look at it that way) the big dogs. Thats kinda intimidating for newcomers like myself. Yyoooww. Oh well, I'd be there to have fun, and besided, I'm sure there would be others like me.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Default Re: SOLO 2 CRX Classification (CRXSi90)

the CRX runs in G-Stock, C-Street Prepared, or E-Mod/D-Mod (depending on motor)
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:10 AM
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Default Re: SOLO 2 CRX Classification (CRXSi90)

With an air filter and a muffler, assuming everything else is stock on the car, you should be in G-stock according to SCCA rules.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:11 AM
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the CRX runs in G-Stock, C-Street Prepared, or E-Mod/D-Mod (depending on motor)
Or Street Mod 2 (now a national class by the way).

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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Default Re: SOLO 2 CRX Classification (celica73)

the CRX runs in G-Stock, C-Street Prepared, or E-Mod/D-Mod (depending on motor)


Or Street Mod 2 (now a national class by the way).

Scott
Or E-Prepared...
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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I guess there are a few other things about my car that I didn't tell, and some that I am just realizing now.
-American Eagle Alloys=14x6 +32 offset, Stock CRX Si alloys=14x5
-K&N stock airfilter replacement, modified intake tract "stuff"...now draws air in through the box thingy infront of the right front wheel
-Cooper Lifeliner tires (should be ok, pretty average street tire, but just making sure)
(now for the small thing)
-Pedal covers, shift ****, and shifter stabalizer bushing kit
-Zoom/Perfecton Hi-Test/Beck Arnley clutch/pressure plate that I suspect is supposed to be a factory replacement

Wooh, I think that covers it. As much as I would like to be in G-Stock with these mods, I think the wheels alone would push me into a higher class. but to where? I am guessing STS according to the many worksheet type classification methods that there are. But wait! I still only have 2 seats! Does that really even matter since the car came like that? C-Street Prepared?

Boy, take a step into the mind of someone new to all this trying to classify their own car.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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Or E-Prepared...
Bring it!!!
The addition inch of width on the wheels will be the problem...
Stock wheels and R compounds are the answer.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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CRXs are not allowed in STS. Your mods (wheels, airbox mod, pedal covers, shifter mod) are all CSP allowed mods. The ideal thing for you to do would be to return the car to stock and run is GS. Those mods are relatively easy to undo. Or you can just allways run it as is in CSP and just learn until you have a better idea of what class you wanna be in. I'd say your best bet would be to eventually run in GS or CSP. Or EP if you have tons more cash burning holes in your pocket and dont plan to drive it on the street. But dont worry too much about that for now...
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Thanks for the responce. I don't have tons of cash burning holes in my pockets, and probably won't even get the R compound tires yet. My first run will probably be in CSP so I can get a feel for the sport, but I am interested in what it would take to go back down to GS. What all would I have to remove to make the switch? I'll start the preliminary list
-use 14x5 wheels
-removal of pedal covers
-replace all airbox components that were removed (I'll have to obtain new ones, but they should be practically free, since people are switching to CAI's left and right)
-and what parts of the shifter would I have to put back to stock? (**** or shifter bushing kit)-From looking at the rules, it seems as though bushings are usually "free" in stock class, and I would think a **** would be the same, since it is not a "linkage".

fix the first three things and I'm good to go in G-Stock, right?

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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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-use 14x5 wheels
-removal of pedal covers
-replace all airbox components that were removed (I'll have to obtain new ones, but they should be practically free, since people are switching to CAI's left and right)
-and what parts of the shifter would I have to put back to stock? (**** or shifter bushing kit)-From looking at the rules, it seems as though bushings are usually "free" in stock class, and I would think a **** would be the same, since it is not a "linkage".
The pedal covers, shift linkage bushings, and yes, even the shift **** are technically illegal for stock class. Stock really means it, except for the handful of things explicitly allowed. Bushing are NOT "usually" free. Front swaybar bushings, that's it.

With that said, if I were you, I would leave the shift bushings but return everything else you discussed back to stock. It would be a pain to replace, it doesn't provide a direct competitive boost, it's not obvious, and initially other people will be whupping your *** anyways When you start winning and thinking about going "national", you better have _everything_ legal on that car, though. An OE style clutch is fine.

You may want to run a few events with the 14x6's though to discover that you want new street tires. That would be a perfect time to get some stock 14x5 alloys if you don't have them. TireRack has 185-60-14 Yoko AVS intermediates for $41. Run, don't walk, to Tirerack.com. I just bought a set last week for the shitvic.
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