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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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http://www.ground-control.com/cok_civic_cat.htm

I have been offered a set of sleeves at a reasonable price - and he says the fronts are "extra long" - Should i go ahead and buy these (used) or buy the "Road Racing" kit from GC. IMO, there should be no difference in functionality but i'm not sure.

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Hello .RJ,

As long as they are for Koni's, fit your dampers they are very easy to shorten if they are to long.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Will a 7" spring work alright? I'm looking to lower an inch or so, but really dont want to be slizzammed. Your G2 teg looks very nice!
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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You can get new threaded bodies, aka sleeves, from GC for $15 each if you run into issues.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Hello .RJ,

I use 8" springs, found 7" spring put the perch at the upper end of the sleeve adjustment range.

The perch/sleeve combination has theoretically less stability at the upper extreme of adjustment. The Koni ringed sleeves are only stabilized lateral, fore and aft on the damper by a 0.75” fitment ring at the bottom of the sleeve and resting perpendicular on the Koni adjustment C-clip.

Granted force should only be directed linear to the collars by the spring in a loaded situation. Unloaded to loaded situations, springs have a tendency to move/deflect into undesired position when least desired.

Also appeared as if the 7” springs will be on the verge of coil bind in extreme compression, no verification testing performed.




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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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Is this even though Koni shocks have different spring positions on them?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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Hello .RJ,

Yes, based on Koni's specified for second generation Integra's.

The optimal setting again would be the lower C-clip setting for the collars to rest on, lower is marginally better.

Koni's for other chassis will fit the G2 Integra and may have original C-clip heights in different locations. Lee can likely answer this question.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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well i went ahead and bought the setup with the 7" springs and Koni's ordered from TireRack. I may be slizzamed after all *shrugs*
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:27 PM
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Hello .RJ,

Be sure to do this slight modification or you will quickly run out of travel in the front.


Stock Location


Modified Location





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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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how is this done? I was giong to order these from ground-control also:

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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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Hello .RJ,

The stock upper damper mount is level with the top of the suspenstion tower. The damper body can only move upwards untill it contacts the bump stops/upper damper mounting rubbers.

This part mounts in the same location as the stock upper damper mount to suspension tower but the cone shaped extention raises the level of the bump stops/upper damper mounting rubbers above the level of the suspension tower. This provides more room for the damper body to project into, allowing for more suspension travel.


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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:58 PM
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correct - but how do you locate the shock on the lower fork like you showed in the pictures?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:37 PM
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Lee does not suggest doing this with a "rat tale" file risk holeing the body, he suggests just running the pinch bolt through the fork in contact with the lower shock body mount.



Brake line bracket trimed with an angle grinder.







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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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awesome, thanks for the pics!!!

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