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Old Feb 15, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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Hey, I put in type r cams into my car today and now the car won't start.. I'm gonna tear it all apart and do it again tommorrow, but I was just wondering if you guys had any pointers for putting them in the next time around? I'm almost 100% positive it was at tdc so.. not quite sure what I did wrong. I think it might be the timing, but wouldnt it start and just idle all weird? Any suggestions needed.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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I'm almost 100% positive it was at tdc
Definitely make sure your cam gears and crank are at TDC when attempting to start the car. You can also try rotating the distributor a little while cranking it if the gears and crank are set already. good luck.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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how would i go about rotating the distributor?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 03:39 AM
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Did you connect the battery? Does the car turn or is it completely dead?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:26 AM
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did you use the ITR valve specs?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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You likely put the timing belt on improperly. If it's far enough off it will prevent the car from starting. Also check the harness at the distributor.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 07:49 AM
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yeah could be off a tooth on the t-belt
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 06:28 PM
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crank the engine over manualy like 10 times and make sure everything is lined up at TDC after that
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Where are the marks on the Cam gears supposed to line up?? They are both pointing inward and down a little, and lined up.
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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The cam gears are supposed to be horizontally even, not pointing towards the ground at all. It looks close but that is not close enough it should look like--
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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if i had to guess i would say your timing is waaaay off. the same thing happend to me when i was installing mine...it would not start. after messing with the timing it started. good luck
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Buckshot - Can you elaborate on how your timing was off and how you fixed it?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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The cam gears are supposed to be horizontally even, not pointing towards the ground at all. It looks close but that is not close enough it should look like--
But wouldnt it rotate up into the position you needed it in anyways?
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Old Feb 16, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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I don't believe so, I have actually set the cam timing on a ZC. I am not sure if an integra has the holes in the cams near the cam gear, but you should and you should be able to stick a pin of some sort through them. Doing so the crank pulley should be set at TDC, where in there is a timing marker on your crank pulley, or you can always verify it by the old screwdriver in the spark plug hole and stop rotating when it is at the top of it's motion. But if you can get some type of pin through the cams the cam gears should line up. The next pain in the *** is getting the timing belt to go on. Good luck, it honestly took my buddies and I 2 hours to do this, just make sure it is not a tooth off.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:18 AM
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We think it's just the timing that is messed up now. Unfortunately the timing belt came loose so we have to get to the tensioner to tighten it back up. Hopefully we can finish it tomorrow, after over 10 hours of working on it
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:22 AM
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that happen to me too. me and my friends couldn;t figure it out. we thought we bought some fucked up cams or that the distributor took a dump all of a sudden. it ended up that we need to do a valve adjustment. try it if you haven't already done it.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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so does it even attempt to start? turn over?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 05:31 AM
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We think it's just the timing that is messed up now. Unfortunately the timing belt came loose so we have to get to the tensioner to tighten it back up. Hopefully we can finish it tomorrow, after over 10 hours of working on it
What do you mean it came loose? If it comes loose after you're driving it you'll need more than 10 hours and a tow truck to fix the damage it'll cause. Take your time, get it right. Make absolutely certain the belt is on the right teeth. Loosen the tensioner up 1/2 turn, rotate the crankshaft pulley a few teeth counterclockwise and torque the tensioner to the perscribed amount. Recheck the tension after this operation and make sure it's not too tight or too loose. Good luck.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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Yeah it turns over, but thats it
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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hope you didn't bend your valves when you attempted to start the car with the timing not set right
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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Well we found out why the belt came loose - there's a tear in it So now we need to replace that and then fix the cams. Anyone up in WA that can help?
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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Well we found out why the belt came loose - there's a tear in it So now we need to replace that and then fix the cams. Anyone up in WA that can help?
How?!? Even OEM belts are really strong...any idea how this happened?

Might be a blessing in disguise. This is the best possible way to find out your T-Belt is damaged.
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Old Feb 17, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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We have no idea how it happened. We didnt hear anything or do anything that would make it tear. And yeah, its really confusing cause the belt is so strong.
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