Before, at the dealership parking lot:


Plate is out:


So what's the new vehicle?
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Took delivery with 2 miles. That's the least mileage I've ever taken delivery of a new vehicle of! Put on 1 mile before remembering to take a pic of the odo.


It is Type R related because the new car would be attending the Type R Expo!


[Modified by Wai, 10:49 AM 2/21/2003]

 

NICE car......can't wait to see her towing power

 

Nice 4Runner!! That is on my short list of tow vehicles.

So how does it drive??

Edit for spelling!!!


[Modified by StageOne, 10:36 AM 2/11/2003]

 

Nice....

 

Very nice, Wai

Congrats

 

 

if ya don't mind me asking, what'd they give you for the 230 on trade?

 

It drives great. Nice view with no blind spot. It has 320 ft-lbs of torque and the thing hops off the line like a bullet. 5spd tranny shifts smoothly and the interior is very quiet. The ride is a little bumpy but that's typical for a truck-based SUV.

One thing I'm really surprised and amazed is the X-REAS suspension. It transfer fluid in the suspension dampers diagonally when cornering, making the car has very little body roll despite the tall ride height. That thing really works. I test drove a Limited (top of the line with leather and everything, but no X-REAS) and car rolled in corners like what I was expecting. But with X-REAS, the car hardly roll! Big plus for anyone who is looking into buying one.

As for towing, the rated capacity is 5000#. It's enough for my application. But something I don't quite understand. The Land Cruiser and Sequoia use the exact same engine and tranny, and they are 1000# heavier in curb weight, BUT their towing capacity is more at 6500#. Maybe the chassis and suspension on the 4Runner is the limiting factor? With 320 tq, towing 5000# would be a piece of cake.

 

Check IM.

 

It takes weight to tow weight... you dont want that trailer throwing the truck around... believe me, I know.

 

Oh I see. That make sense.

 

i see you got the V8...do they have the 6 out yet? and are you aware the V6 is gonna be more powerful than the 8, and weigh about 200 lbs. less? Pretty sure they have the same towing capacity too...

XREAS is pretty sweet, that was the one vehicle i got to go to a product intro for in my brief stint as a toyota salesman...

 

WAi, the offical midwest baller out of control(hahaha). I thought we talked about you getting a chevy for a Tow vehicle(hehehe)

Looks good mang. Im in the market for a second car or a freakin motorcycle, Miata or Suzuki GSXR 600 or Yamaha R6. All three are topless(hehehe)

 

The V6 has more Horsepower, but the V8 has more torque and its at a lower RPM. Better for Towing.




[Modified by StageOne, 12:13 PM 2/11/2003]

 

The V6 was out last month. I was planning to get the V6 because before it came out, I was expecting it to be around $2000 cheaper, which is reasonable for a smaller engine and a 4spd tranny. But when it came out, it is only $800 less. So I was like "forget it!" and got a V8 & 5spd tranny instead.

They do have the same towing capacity. And after inquiring for opinions in the racing forum, they all seem to favor higher torque than horsepower for towing (even for highway towing). So here it is: the V8 4Runner.

 

I'm still trying to catch up with sackdz. He's still way ahead of me..!

Jay, just take a look out of your window now. That's what intrigued me to trade in the RWD convertible.......

 

Very nice..... that was on my short list also before I purchased my Tahoe. I almost bought the 4-Runner Sport but I didn't like the dealer, he tried to charge me $4k over sticker. Then when I walked out laughing at him, he said he would ask his manager to wave the $4k. But it was already too late.

But all in all it was a really nice truck.

 

Very nice Y.

 

nice

 

Hey Wai, nice truck, hope it provides you many years of trouble free service.

Regarding the tow rating...I found it to be quite peculiar. I was having an argument with my friend who is a Ford fan. He was rooting for Explorer V8 as the best midsize SUV, and me making the same argument for the 4runner.

I couldn't convince him that the 4runner was the better truck because it could only tow 5000lbs with a more powerful V8, yet the Explorer can pull 7000lbs with a less powerful V8.

Now if I use Chris's argument, "It takes weight to tow weight," nothing seems to make sense, for I believe the 4Runner is the bigger and heavier truck. So any towing experts have any insight on this?

 

I think it has a LOT to do with marketing and advertising. I honestly think that the chassis, engine & tranny combo on the 4Runner can haul more than 5000#. Since 5000# is more than enough for MOST people in this country, they don't need to post a higher number as their selling point, take the risk of premature failures and ruin their reputation. They have a lot more selling points to advertise. On the other hand, the Explorer......

We also have to look at the GCVW (vehicle + trailer + passenger + luggages). That can give 500# to 1000# difference depends on how the manufacturer presents it in their brochures.

 

Nice kaa Wai, have you bought a trailer yet also?
Since it tows 5k, can i skitch my car behind you?

 

Yes but the V8 has 6 bolt mains and forged everything, good for at least 500hp stock.......mmmmmm add a couple of turbos and you'll be able to tow anything you want.


Sam

 

wai and his new toys

looks g00t

 

TRD offers a SuperCharger for the V8 damn SCed v8 4 runner and i thought the tundra was quick stock