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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 05:44 AM
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Tried a search with no good response. It's time to bleed my brakes and without access to a Helms right now I'm wondering the best way to go about it, especially without Speedbleeders to ease the process. Do any of you have a link with some good info, or just some quick easy steps to help me along? TIA
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 05:46 AM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=408049
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 05:48 AM
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Thank you
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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I don't think that thread really explains the process, though.

Basically:

1. Make sure the fluid level is full in the reservoir.

2. Ask a friend to sit in the car and, with the keys out, gently pump the brake pedal until it gets very firm.

3. Attach your clear bleed hose to the nipple on one of the calipers, and put a 10mm wrench on the bleed screw.

4. While your friend applies gentle pressure, open the bleed screw for a few seconds and then close it again. While it's open, the pedal will move to the floor, but you don't want to let it go all the way. Once you close up the screw, the pedal will stop.

5. Have your friend pump the brakes again and repeat the process until the fluid coming out has no air in it, and looks nice and clean.

6. Move to the next wheel.


Things to remember:

Never depress the pedal all the way to the floor, and there is no need to "stand" on it. Gentle pressure is all it needs.

Check the fluid level in the reservoir periodically, and fill when necessary. Never let it drop below the "min" line.

The brakes might not feel 100% right after the bleed. Give it a day.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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come by anytime nate. al and i can bleed em.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 06:50 AM
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Things to remember:

Never depress the pedal all the way to the floor, and there is no need to "stand" on it. Gentle pressure is all it needs.

Check the fluid level in the reservoir periodically, and fill when necessary. Never let it drop below the "min" line.

The brakes might not feel 100% right after the bleed. Give it a day.
Just curious,why no pedal to the floor? Thanks.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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It will ruin the Master cylinder. If you depress all the way, you damage the MC and will always have a mushy pedal even if the brake lines and calipers are void o air.

I've also found the leaving the ignition energized while bleeding seems to get a firmer pedal as well.

Just curious,why no pedal to the floor? Thanks.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Default Re: Bleeding Brakes (Floyd)

I don't think that thread really explains the process, though.

Basically:

1. Make sure the fluid level is full in the reservoir.

2. Ask a friend to sit in the car and, with the keys out, gently pump the brake pedal until it gets very firm.

3. Attach your clear bleed hose to the nipple on one of the calipers, and put a 10mm wrench on the bleed screw.

4. While your friend applies gentle pressure, open the bleed screw for a few seconds and then close it again. While it's open, the pedal will move to the floor, but you don't want to let it go all the way. Once you close up the screw, the pedal will stop.

5. Have your friend pump the brakes again and repeat the process until the fluid coming out has no air in it, and looks nice and clean.

6. Move to the next wheel.


Things to remember:

Never depress the pedal all the way to the floor, and there is no need to "stand" on it. Gentle pressure is all it needs.

Check the fluid level in the reservoir periodically, and fill when necessary. Never let it drop below the "min" line.

The brakes might not feel 100% right after the bleed. Give it a day.
Great info. This can be done with one person if you have a little fluid in a 2 liter coke bottle and a long enough hose. Put the loose end of the hose submerged in the fluid and it won't suck up air whenthe pedal is released without tightening the bleeder screw.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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It will ruin the Master cylinder. If you depress all the way, you damage the MC and will always have a mushy pedal even if the brake lines and calipers are void o air.

Just curious,why no pedal to the floor? Thanks.
to avoid damaging the MC, I put a block of wood(2x4) under the brake pedal arm so it can't travel to the floor when you press on the brake to bleed.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Great info. This can be done with one person if you have a little fluid in a 2 liter coke bottle and a long enough hose. Put the loose end of the hose submerged in the fluid and it won't suck up air whenthe pedal is released without tightening the bleeder screw.
it may not suck air back up, but it WILL suck all the air bubbles that in in the hose back into the braking system. unless i'm missing something here...

-tony
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 12:20 PM
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Great info. This can be done with one person if you have a little fluid in a 2 liter coke bottle and a long enough hose. Put the loose end of the hose submerged in the fluid and it won't suck up air whenthe pedal is released without tightening the bleeder screw.

it may not suck air back up, but it WILL suck all the air bubbles that in in the hose back into the braking system. unless i'm missing something here...

-tony
It sucks up very little and might pull a small bubble or 2 the first pump but after that it doesn't work like what you described. Try it and I think you wil be surprised.

I have done thins with 2 people and monitors the clear hose with no air traveling backwards.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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thanks for clearing that up. i've never actually tried your method -- i was making an assumption based on my knowledge of the braking system. it's definitely something i'll look into a little more.

-tony
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 12:49 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 12:53 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own
bah...too easy!

-tony
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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1. Make sure the fluid level is full in the reservoir.

2. Ask a friend to sit in the car and, with the keys out, gently pump the brake pedal until it gets very firm.

3. Attach your clear bleed hose to the nipple on one of the calipers, and put a 10mm wrench on the bleed screw.

4. While your friend applies gentle pressure, open the bleed screw for a few seconds and then close it again. While it's open, the pedal will move to the floor, but you don't want to let it go all the way. Once you close up the screw, the pedal will stop.

5. Have your friend pump the brakes again and repeat the process until the fluid coming out has no air in it, and looks nice and clean.

6. Move to the next wheel.
Just make sure everyone in your house KNOW that you guys are doing brakes in the garage.

"pump it. Is it hard yet?"
"yeah"
"k, I'll turn the nipple. it's coming out. hold it there"
"done?"
"aight, let go slowly and pump again. Hard?"
"yeah"
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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LOL, Wai is a crazy ****
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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LOL, Wai is a crazy ****
One time I helped out my friend to bleed his brakes. Then another guy walked in and said, "I should have tape all your conversation." Then we realized what we've been saying lol!
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Man Wai, you are one sick ****.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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I hope Scotty doesn't read this, he may get the wrong idea
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own
IF they are available for your car


Pat, 0 for 3 on Speedbleeders
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own
Does the "do not push the pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding" apply to people that have Speed Bleeders?
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own

Does the "do not push the pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding" apply to people that have Speed Bleeders?
yes it applies to everyone.

see the pitfalls of member Neo
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 03:59 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own
Are the speed bleeders for the 94-97 Integra the same as for 98-01 Integras? They don't have 98+ listed on their site.
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own Are the speed bleeders for the 94-97 Integra the same as for 98-01 Integras? They don't have 98+ listed on their site.
yes they are the same. it is a 10mm x something
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Old Feb 7, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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Or you can get speed bleeders and be done in 10 minutes working on your own

Does the "do not push the pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding" apply to people that have Speed Bleeders?

yes it applies to everyone.

see the pitfalls of member Neo
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Ah shieeee...I guess I'll be comparing brake pedal feel and response with others at VIR to see if I jacked up my master cylinder brace.
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