Well Guys and Girls I have a project that I want to go ahead and start on. I want to get my engine rubuilded so I can handle like 20psi of boost or more..
So what I need help on is finding some of the best of the best stuff out there for my car. Name Brands and links to some would help greatly. I am totally trying to make this a 500+ HP daily driver. So I know I will probably have to save up some money to do this but I have already started. I want to be able to have money for anything that may be unexpected to come along.
I need a cam, pistons, fuel injectors, valves, valve springs, rod and bearings, main bearings, gaskets, oil pump, oil pan (I think moroso is what I am going for here), cam gear, valve cover, timing cover, water pump, intake, throttle body, spark plug wires, hondata, piston sleeves, well I think that is all I can think of right now. I am looking at doing a total overhaul rebuild to reinforce the entire motor. Some suggestions would be great. Thanks Matt aka Jaguar

 

Aren't we all...Sorry, I can't help but someone should be able to...

 

Do a search for the username "niedejb" . Read his posts and it will probably answer all of your questions. Also go to his website for more info. I believe a link is in his signature.

 

thanks man

 

500 hp daily driver?? that sounds kinda funny, but if you do it, everybody be bowin down to u. If you're gonna spend all that money on the accord, why not just buy a faster car?? u can buy a lanevo or wrx and tweak the turbo a lil here and there and you'll easily have 300+ WHP. Thas what i would do.

 

man that would be crazy if you could pull that off and still have it be a daily driver. 20 psi on an F series sounds damn cool in the fact that most people who have that setup usually swap in an H23 before and then resleeve. to you, and good luck on the project also keep us posted on the build.


[Modified by Maybomb119, 10:19 PM 2/6/2003]

 

you're best bet is to find a '99 H22 & build it w/ Crower parts, http://www.crower.com

there are parts for the H22, anything for the F23 will have to be custom made, you can send the motor to a shop for a bore increase & restroke.

find 2point6 on here or Honda-Acura.net he has a H22 built up to 2.6L & runs 13s on NA form.

 

Well I difentally don't want to do an engine swap. I want to keep the F block in there. I am one of those ppl that like to shoot for goals that sometimes seem impossible and actually have a good chance of getting there. I love taking an underdog car like the accord and making it fast. Espically the 6th Gen Accord that has one/ if not the heaviest bodies. I know this is a long shot for this car to get 500hp but if I can get it done then I know I have accomplist something. I have fun taking something like this that everyone else would put an H22 motor or something in there. Yes I know it may take some major $$$$ for this and some custom work but if I do it then I could leave a trail for others to follow if they want and not have to go down a different path because no one has done this motor or something. I want to be a leader not a follower. Anyways and the reason why I didn't just pick a fast car. Well that goes back to what I was saying about getting an underdog making it fast and get or earn the respect of the other car owners. Like wrx and stuff like that.

 

i know a guy selling JE pistons and Crower rods for the F23. he wants $1300 for both of them. the pistons are custom cause they dont make them. not sure of the compression but theyre probably 8.5:1 or around there. hit me up with a PM or an email if you want his info. you would need a lot more stuff but it would be a very good starting point. keep the F23. no need to swap motors. F23 is very capable of 500hp if done correctly and you have enough money

 

Check with Race Engineering - I just bought a package from them that included Crower billet rods, Wiseco pistons, JE rings, wristpins and clips for a little over a grand. They carry alot of parts for the "unpopular" engines, and I believe that they can get nearly anything.

 

this is a sweet idea. update us, sounds like a reallly nice concept. its nice to see someone saying "im going to build my accord" instead of "im going to buy a faster car because its easier". 10 out of 10 n the coolness scale.

 

Yep That is exactly what I am going to do. I am going to build my accord. I love taking 4 banger that cost maybe 11K and spend maybe 10K in it, for a total of 21k and beat those 96K cars. Like vipers or something less expensive like a corvette. Those cars may be good cars and all but they just don't have the gas mileage as my little 4 banger and once I am done it will be faster then there car and most likely won't be as custom as my car. Paint job, interior paint, roll cage, custom interior with race seats and everything. Anyways I don't need to keep going on about this because I could make this longer then it needs to me lol.

 

im not big on interior mods, i like to keep it stock, but thats just me. anyway, good luck.

 

500hp is waaay too high...

150HP stock, 14.7psi of boost theoretically would be 300HP before losses right? (+/-, some for bolt-ons and other mods.) Unless you plan to have it cammed to peak at higher engine speeds and/or raise the redline, 500HP is way too far off.

 

What????? What do you mean waaaay too high? Dude this is totally achieveable by what I am looking at. Lets see I don't have any actual dyno sheets or nothing but I am pushing around 250hp now probably a little plus now I have exhaust and i went from 5psi to 8psi. I know not too much of a boost gain but it does help. Now when I do the motor rebuild I am going to be turning the boost to around 23 - 24 psi and hopefully after boreing and stroking to around 2.5 maybe a 2.6. I will hope I should be fairly close to the 500hp mark. Oh and BTW I am fixing to run Hondata... as soon as we can figure out the damn P06 computer problem that I am having... It isn't running right but when we fix it up right then I should be around 300hp there...So turning up the boost and doing alot of other engine stuff I should be able to reach that goal.


[Modified by Jaguar, 11:55 PM 2/10/2003]

 

250 for 8psi sounds possible at the engine. Stock is 150, standard atmospheric pressure is 14.7 or so, so 8psi of boost puts your engine at 22-23. If you make 250HP now, you would need to double the pressure that it is at now to get 500HP correct? Double pressue means twice the amount of air, twice amount of oxygen, plus twice the amount of fuel would theoretically be 500HP. 44-46psi, minus standard atmospheric of 14.7 would mean you need to boost 30psi no? This is all still before losses to inefficiency which should rise with making more power, making it even harder to reach 500.

 

Yeah, but no. With all that torque available, he'd only need a cam that would shift his powerband up by about 500rpm and he'd be there.

 

Hey! I have a F23 engine and I was going to do the samething, but I have to move to Germany in a few weeks. I use to have a F-Max turbo kit, but sold it because of the move. I do have ported and polished head and intake manifold, Gude throttle body, Gude cam, DC headers, Greddy Exhaust, Random Tech high-flow cat, AEM large fuel rail, AEM fuel regulator, AEM cam gear, and AEM pulley kit. I did order JE Pistons and Crower Rods, both custom made. Those two parts are for sale though. The pistons come with the piston rings and the pistons are a 8:1 ratio, which is good for turbo or NOS. They are brand new and I'm selling the pistons for $600.00 and the rods for $700.00. If you do want them! I have to get them to you at the end of March. The military shipped all my stuff and it won't get to Germany until the middle of March.

Info: There are not that many companies that make cams for the F23 engine. You'll find that out when you start to look around. Let me know if I can help out!

JON

 

You need the change out the computer when you get a Hondata2B, which is for a turbo application. I think the computer is a P28.... The same one is the Civic Si, 95.


JON

 

Hey awolaccord99, I am pretty interested in your pistons and rods and stuff but I need to know what size your pistons are. I am not looking for stock size....
Please let me know

 

The pistons are pretty close to stock, maybe a millimeter bigger. The rods are stock also. The ratio for the pistons are 8:1. Sorry about that! Let me know what you think. They won't be going anywhere for a while.

JON

 

Hey does anyone possibly know what the bore and stroke limit is of these motors??? I am going to clean this motor up and everything and I want to bore stroke it but I don't know how far I can go without going to far. I am going to resleeve it and everything. Any help on this would be great. I have found pistons and rods so far. So I am on my way to the motor rebuild. Thanks alot guys.

 

bump....

I would kinda like to know about this for my car. So I can properly bore my engine out without going too far.

 

Have you considered destroking it to rev higher? A longer stroke will not want to rev that high but it will produce a ton of torque. You will have MAJOR traction issues at 500 HP...

 

From the Helms

F23 reboring limit is .25mm (.01in) max