ok heres the deal, i havent been on here for a while and most of you or all probably dont know me. its getting closer to the spring and closer to getting my car painted and i talked to my mom and shes letting me borrow some cash to get a motor while i'm at it,(told her mine wouldnt run for much longer) but anyways my question is what time do you guys witht the b16s in hatchs run what times with the ls or ls/vtec? thanks RC

 

there are infinate variables there...
try to be a little more specific

 

like shorti said above ^, it depends on things like driver, mods, tires, location, blah blah blah. do the work and post some of your numbers!

 

this is the best answer you will recieve. i dont understand why people ask this question. if it were answerable, nobody would even bother racing. think about it this way. an ls/vtec with gs-r head will basically be a high-compression 1.9 liter dohc vtec engine. a b16a is a 1.6 liter regular compression dohc vtec engine. you do the math.

 

I don't know times, but I would go with the ls/vtec if you are debating between the two.

 

ls/vtec you are looking at low 14's maybe high 13's(of course the driver/track/setup...)
with the b16 mid 14's just with the stock motor...
sound about right?(anyone)

if it was up to me just get the b16, cheaper, great aftermarket support and honda's realiability! plus you always have to worry with the frankis if the shop does a good job and you are putting your motor on someone's hands... trust
just my 2c.

 

i thought with a stock b16 you will get high 14

 

I agree... i have seen these times at the track with ls/vtec.... I have seen from low 14's to high 12's depending on their set up... an almost stock ls/vtec ran a 14.2 on streets with a crx hf....
As for the first gen b16a i have seen them run very low 15's (15.0-15.3), althoug many people say they can run high 14's, i still havent seen anyone run those times with a b16a in a crx... but im sure there is people out there running those times, i just havent seen them....

 

I have a mostly stock D16A6, with just intake and exhaust. Last fall in about 50 degree weather, strong headwind(about 20 mph), I ran 16.1 with 180k on the motor, bald radials, and my first time at the track, I'm looking at getting either a different Intake Mani, or an MSD ignition, hopefully this spring, with new tires, and some other basic reliability maintenance I'll run in the mid-high 15's, like everyone else said, it's all about the driver, track conditions, and location.

 

i heard people running on zc gets low 15 and a zc is a really afforable motor

 

I ran consistant 14.8 w/ my hatch on toyo proxes Fz4. first gen b16a w/ just intake and trust exhaust.

 

alright sorry guys i guess i didnt think about it, but i live in oregon so i will be going to PIR and i will be running 13 civic cx rims or some grs wheels with about 75% thread. the car has integra front seats with the integra center consol and 95 civic front seats i dont think the interior will matter becuase i dout it put more then 3 Lbs on it and as for out side it will be lowered thats it i dont know if its much help.

 

hey man, its skreech from the dalles

with a straight ls swap, you could probably hit a low 15 up here. eddie's ls was running 15.8 and 15.9, but its a big heavy integra. you have a lot less weight.