"MADE IN JAPAN" - I had a couple people tell me that all Integra's were not made in Japan and that an OBD1 94-95 GSR was the strongest GSR because the motor was built in Japan, therefore being the 180hp GSR not the 170hp GSR?

I have no idea if there is any truth to that statement, so maybe some of you guys can clear it up.


[Modified by geminiGSR, 2:40 PM 1/30/2003]

 

i dont know about the japan part but i know that the 94-95 GSR's ecu is OBD1 and it works better with mods. But im not positive about the h/p difference, i always thought all the GSR's came with 180...

 

That is the first time I have heard of that. As far as I know all integras were manufactured in Japan. There is a myth that 94-95 tegs have a bit more "umph" because they have OBD1 ECU's while the 96 and up tegs have OBD2, which has a stricter emission program.

I don't really think there is any proof to the OBD1 and OBD2 myth but I do know that what those "people" were telling you, is a bunch of BS!

HTH

 

Nope, manufacturer claims 170HP at the crank.

 

i believe they are all rated at 170 hp...but liek the other guy said they have obd1 and some say they are a lil quicker.

when most car companies introduce a new car they tend to cut less corners cuz they want people to see how good the car really is...but then over the years once the car has "made its mark" they tend to cheapen it up to save some money.

im not sure if honda does this but i remember hearing this a while ago, but it may ne in correct

 

all integras are made in Japan, hence the VIN # that starts with J...and they all have 170hp, although the 94-96 are a little bit lighter so they are a bit quicker but not that noticeable

 

What's the reasoning behind your statement that the a"94-96 tegs lighter"? I have never heard of this. I have heard that the RS model is lighter but not 94-96. Not tyring to bust your *****, just curious.

 

My GSR brochure says the same....

 

I'm just loving all the misinformation in this thread.

ALL integras are made in Japan, meaning all the motors are made in Japan too.
ALL GSR's make 170HP, give or take a few.
OBD1 cars are theoretically supposed to respond better to mods than OBD2.

 

All of the above are correct

 

yeah all tegs r made in japan i know my factory sticker says country of origin 100% japan

 

true all integra's are made in japan, but theyre not all made the same! I have a 1994 integra SiVTEC (JDM RHD) and they claim 180PS (178bhp) for this car stock, i have had it dyno'd and got 188(crank) with bolt ons (I/E only)

 

JDM GS-R motor runs 10.6 compression opposed to USDM 10.0. that is why there is more power.

 

The man is right on the money.

I too cannot believe the number of misleading information that people give on this board.....

 

That what I heard 94-95 is the best year for the gsr.

 

the JDM B18C runs at 180, and the US B18C1 runs 170.

 

from doing some reading, and checking posts about this before, i was assuming obd1 ecus haven proven to be better than obd1, thats why many people do that conversion...

 

Usually OBD1 conversion are done when you want to add a reprogrammable ECU like Hondata. The OBD1 coding cracked but not OBD2. Easier to switch ECUs than cracking the OBD2 I guess.

 

The 94 to 95 and 96 to 97 tegs are stronger.There ECU's are less restrictive,in 98 obd2 revised and was real restrictive.To all who say its a myth,my car runs stronger with my 95 ECU,although its been remapped I tried a stock obd1 ECU and it ran the same,stronger.I also had my friend try 2 95 ECU's as well,as well as let alot of people drive it for themselves,and guess what?Everyone agrees the cars run stronger with that ECU.By the way my friends GSR had just an intake on his car.Not a whole lot stronger but I would bet it would be in the 5 to 10 WHP range which is nice because the car is running the way it should instead of restricted,depending on how many mods are done to your car.


[Modified by maggsgsr, 6:23 PM 2/3/2003]

 

every car will vary. there are freak motors from the factory that put out way more power than what honda advertises.

that being said, i know that OBD1 makes more power than OBD2. there are 2 OBD2 versions... 96-97 is OBD2 version1 and 98-01 is the updated OBD2 firmware.

here is version 1 OBD2 http://www.geocities.com/dynocenter/bstock.html making 144.3whp peak

here is version 2 OBD2 http://www.geocities.com/dynocenter/98obd2.html making 133whp peak.

OBD1 is not only more tunable, it has less emissions restrictions. so OBD1 cars should make more than 144.3 whp in theory. whether your car does or does not is a different story. however, ALL usdm b18c1's come with 170hp @ the flywheel from the factory. varied output is only because of differences between every motor that is built, as well as emissions. JDM GSR motors have a higher compression ratio which accounts for the added power.