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Any Race car owners tried universal Pinto rack and steering column in Honda ?

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Default Any Race car owners tried universal Pinto rack and steering column in Honda ?

if not what do you use and what weight compared to stock manual honda rack and steering colum ? where also ? Jegs ? Summit ? Other ?

also price ?

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Don't you have to retain a stock rack to be legal in NHRA?
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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i think tony is right about that. if you want to save some weight you might want to look into getting a rear sub frame made. i know climax tried to make one about 3 years back but i don't know if they are even still around. if you could make something like that i think it would pass the rules and might shave some weight.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 07:09 PM
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Or a tubular subframe with LCA's are also a nice way to reduce front weight...
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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The climax and area 51 tubular crossmember are not legal in NHRA, we already checked
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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the area 51 crossmember isnt legal ? what? that sucks.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 01:55 AM
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yeup sure isnt beforegetting the predator front suspension was thinking about going with the area 51 unit very nice by the way. just not legal -pdang
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 05:58 AM
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thanks for the responses, Tony I didn't see the regulation you mentioned, I check P 71 Section 9 3.3: Steering. Thats why I figured it could be used. So everyone is just using the lightest CX/VX racks is that how it works ?

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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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I don't remember exactly where it is, but i'm pretty sure i've read it somewhere. I'll look at the rulebook today and let you know.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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The climax and area 51 tubular crossmember are not legal in NHRA, we already checked
I dont doubt you, but i never read it in the rules... by chance, what does the rule state about crossmembers...

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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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I think you'd actually want to use like an Omni GLH rack. The Pinto, I beleive steers from in front of the wheel rather then in back like the hondas. The Omni GLH is from in back, so it may be easier to perform that swap--I see no reason why it would be hard to do... I was researching this for the rally car to get better steering response and ratio on the 88 Civic.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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thanks for the responses, Tony I didn't see the regulation you mentioned, I check P 71 Section 9 3.3: Steering. Thats why I figured it could be used. So everyone is just using the lightest CX/VX racks is that how it works ?

Greg
I can't find anything in the rules bout that but i figure anything that bolts ups like original equipment would be allowed
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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I think they outlawed it, but haven't put it into the rules, if that's possible *shrug*. I think they were worried about people relocating suspension points with one of those. It would be too easy to do. Anyways, just going by what we were told.

edit: talking about the crossmember here...
Contact Jim Skelley to find out for sure.


[Modified by tony1, 11:31 PM 1/27/2003]
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Any Race car owners tried universal Pinto rack and steering column in Honda ? (tony1)

edit: talking about the crossmember here...
Contact Jim Skelley to find out for sure.
Tony, was trying to figure out if simply changing the entire rack and steering column would cause issues with regulations ... we'll contac skelley and find out ... thanks for the help.

Vic, email Jim Skelley and find out ... reference Jegs catalog that we talked about.

Greg
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