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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:19 PM
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Does this final drive add any more torque/power to the wheels over say a 4.7 FD?

Or does it just make it FEEL like there's more power?

What I mean is.. is this a "power adding" type of modification?
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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I've owned one - read THIS:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=90310

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Does this final drive add any more torque/power to the wheels over say a 4.7 FD?

NO - but acceleration will improve - through gearing not power output

Or does it just make it FEEL like there's more power?

See above

What I mean is.. is this a "power adding" type of modification?

No it is a gearing modification - duh
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Does this final drive add any more torque/power to the wheels over say a 4.7 FD?

NO - but acceleration will improve - through gearing not power output

Or does it just make it FEEL like there's more power?

See above

What I mean is.. is this a "power adding" type of modification?

No it is a gearing modification - duh
It's obvious it's a gearing modification, I was asking if it's something noticeable on a dyno, as far as peak power goes, not acceleration. It may seem like a ignorant question to you, but for someone like me who has never experienced one, it's not such a "DUH" thing.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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just think about the theory for a second, it will become clearer

does adding a different FD change the speedo accuracy?

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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No, it does not affect speedo accuracy.

Jared, if you wanna feel what the 4.9 is like, just let me know

...and no, you wont pick up any hp/tq on a dyno...unfortunately.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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With a shorter fd you will just go through the rpms faster, no power is added or noticed on the dyno. You will notice the difference blasting out of corners, however.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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No, you won't experience any Dyno gains.

No, there is NO speedo accuracy issue.

Yes, the difference With the mod is very noticable.

Yes, I have one.

And Yes, I am a big fan But, that would make me biased.

Come to the Expo and ride in a bunch of R's that have it. Meet Yasu (ATS fame), see the mod there and quite possibly watch it get installed.


Take a look at this sites Archived posts... There are quite a few reviews,,, mostly positive and I think 1 negative? Of course correct me if I'm wrong.


A.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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how much is a ATS 4.9 FD? how much $ i mean


[Modified by TypeR 599, 7:51 PM 1/21/2003]
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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...and no, you wont pick up any hp/tq on a dyno...unfortunately.
That was the answer I was looking for. I didn't think so.. but I wanted to be sure.

Jared, if you wanna feel what the 4.9 is like, just let me know
Alright.. next time we do something, I'd like you to drive my car too, see what you think..
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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Alright.. next time we do something, I'd like you to drive my car too, see what you think..
Better hurry up, the motor is coming out soon, car is being sold with sir-g swap.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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I guess nobody read my damn link?

Must be because I drive a hatchcrap...

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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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I guess nobody read my damn link?

Must be because I drive a hatchcrap...

Probably because you broke yours. Want another 4.4 just incase? I have one for sale.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 07:54 PM
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nameless areyou in WA?

im in bay area, ca if you want a drive
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:03 PM
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I guess nobody read my damn link?

Must be because I drive a hatchcrap...

I read it.. thanks
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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how much is a ATS 4.9 FD? how much $ i mean


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is around $750 while the jdm FD is$ 425
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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how much is a ATS 4.9 FD? how much $ i mean


[Modified by TypeR 599, 7:51 PM 1/21/2003]
is around $750 while the jdm FD is$ 425
wow...
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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You will get more torque at the wheels and this would be measurable on a dynometer like a Dynopack which reads actual wheel torque. However you will not get more wheel horse power because of the reduction in rpm at the wheel (the torque is increased by the same ratio as the rpm reduction so the hp stays constant).

The 4.9 FD is a very good improvement and I recomande it (for what it is worth).
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 10:30 PM
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nameless areyou in WA?

im in bay area, ca if you want a drive
I'd like to feel the 4.9 ats. I have a 4.7 fd awaiting install, yet I have NEVER driven a car with an upgraded fd. Just you guys' reviews of it made me save for one.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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Default Re: Question about ATS 4.9 (Spoon1)

how much is a ATS 4.9 FD? how much $ i mean


[Modified by TypeR 599, 7:51 PM 1/21/2003]
is around $750 while the jdm FD is$ 425
But if you have a Type R tranny already, then you only need the FD right (edit: ring gear too)? And that's like 600$ ??

I have the 4.78 FD, I can't imagine this ATS would be that much better than it..

Looks like I'm gonna save though


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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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nameless areyou in WA?

im in bay area, ca if you want a drive

i wanna drive your car.
oh yeah, sorry for never getting back to you on the intake. left for vacation too quickly.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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But if you have a Type R tranny already, then you only need the FD right (edit: ring gear too)? And that's like 600$ ??
If you have a 98 Spec JDM ITR tranny you do not need the first gear which is usually included in the kit. I think it is about $140 off the normal price.
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 01:08 AM
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kind of off-topic, but what does the ATS final drive do to your top speed? i'm just curious...

-tony
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:06 AM
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138mph if I remember right...
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Old Jan 22, 2003 | 03:13 AM
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But if you have a Type R tranny already, then you only need the FD right (edit: ring gear too)? And that's like 600$ ??
Well not JUST the ring gear. You'll also NEED the countershaft/pinion shaft as as well.

The ATS parts in the kit are the ring gear (1) and pinion shaft (1).

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