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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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hey, people. i was wondering what you guys think of this setup!!

b18b block
VTEC head
ITR pistons
shotpeen ls rods
ITR or skunk 2 cams
ITR Water pump.
ITR oil pump.
ITR Timing belt.
B16a2 trans
ARP bolts
New head gasket, Oil pan gasket, rear main seal,Oil return gasket, oil filter
ls vtec breather
gsr radtior


[Modified by wm5holla, 2:12 PM 2/7/2003] i will using a b16 tranny, i heard a b16 tranny and itr tranny are the excact same ,but the itr tranny hasLSD, the gear ratios are the SAME

[Modified by wm5holla, 2:21 AM 3/17/2003] then i was thinkin about some else.. i hate to be like other people for exmpale gsr in a hatch is sooo common. i was thinking aboyt all motor b18b.east like b18b motor with itr pistion and other lil goodies shunk2 mainfold ,


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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Default Re: like my LS VTECset up??i need more feed back (wm5holla)

you need to USE your LS crank....using a b16 crank in an LS block is like a reverse stroker......
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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you need to USE your LS crank....using a b16 crank in an LS block is like a reverse stroker......
and yes the exhaust should fit fine..

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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:16 PM
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dont put a ls/vtec, just go with all motor or boost, buy a ls motor and turbo it...simple as that.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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why are you going to pay 1200 for a 1st gen B16a? longblocks are only 450 + shipping from some online companies like nippon-motors.com
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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You need to use the ls crank and the ls rods if you want to keep the displacement of the ls. The b16 pistons are a good idea if you plan to go all motor but if your planning boost leave the ls slugs in. You might consider just buying the long block because they at quite a bit cheaper. Consider a b16 tranny as well if youre planning all motor, the gearing is much better. Good luck.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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Default Re: like my LS VTECset up??i need more feed back (94jdmsol)

dont put a ls/vtec, just go with all motor or boost, buy a ls motor and turbo it...simple as that.
God dammit newb, he asked about building a LS/VTEC setup, he didnt ask your opinion on what you would do with a b18b.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:30 PM
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i meant the most i will paid for a 1st gen b16 is 1200 thats the max!! where can i find out more about my apex n1?
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:34 PM
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well u do know that u dont need the b16 tranny as it is a cable tranny. Other than that it sounds good.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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You need to use the ls crank and the ls rods if you want to keep the displacement of the ls. The b16 pistons are a good idea if you plan to go all motor but if your planning boost leave the ls slugs in. You might consider just buying the long block because they at quite a bit cheaper. Consider a b16 tranny as well if youre planning all motor, the gearing is much better. Good luck.
took the words right out of my mouth.
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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whats up a b16a tranny? someone told i will run 13s with a ls and gsr tranny.....
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Old Jan 19, 2003 | 11:55 PM
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cheapest way would be to buy the LS longblock and get the B16 Head and Intake Manifold (Header also but you should use aftermarket)

Also, if you plan on going boost or makeing any SERIOUS power then you may want to steer away from the B16 tranny, it makes traction dificult, try the GSR


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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 12:00 AM
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whats the best tranny.. other than a 2k itr tranny?? b16 b18b gsr?
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 12:30 AM
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Default Re: like my LS VTECset up??i need more feed back (wm5holla)

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hey, people. i was wondering what you guys think ofthis setup!!

b18b block
1st gen b16a head
1st gen b16a pistions or ctr pistons
shotpeen ls rods or ctr rods or b16 rods
1st gen b16a cams
b18b crank
1st gen b16a Water pump.
1st gen b16a oil pump.
1st gen b16a Timing belt.

i thinking i can buy a 1st gen b16a for 1200 and a b18b block for 700 so i should spend about 2K good deal ? im a broke college student who wants a ls vtec bad *** hell..
please let me know will every thing bolt up nicely?

heres a question , i want 2 get a apex N1 on my 94 hatch . i have a d16 motor. i am planning on getting a ls swap, if i get the N1 now will the N1 bolt up to the LS???


[Modified by wm5holla, 12:33 AM 1/20/2003]
you'll need ARP head studs for the B16A head, you have to use the GSR timing belt, GSR oil pump and GSR water pump. i'd go with ITR pistons and rings.

the N1 is just a rear section muffler...unless you get the entire cat-back. it also depends on what header you use...2.25" or 2.5"...good luck with the setup.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 01:14 AM
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you have to use the GSR timing belt, GSR oil pump and GSR water pump. i'd go with ITR pistons and rings.
Not necassarily. He could use an LS timing belt if he uses an LS water pump, and use any oil pump-- but a vtec oil pump is better.

A GSR timing belt is needed with any 23 tooth vtec water pump (ie-b16,gsr,itr).
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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thanks Guys alot!
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 01:07 PM
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exit 9 nj........ im around ur way...selling my ls/vtec setup
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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ur email ??
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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if i were you id piece the swap together instead of buying what you dont need.
since your rebuilding the block anyway, save money and get a B18A block.

B18A block...100-150$
GSR top end...600-700$
ITR pistons, oilpump, waterpump, timingbelt...450-500$
vtec hydro tranny...600-800$
ITR clutch...180$
94+ integra axles, midshaft, mounts, linkage, throttlecable...500$
p28 ecu w/ program 200-250$
labor and parts involved in rebuilding the b18a with your new parts...600$
headgasket..60
arp studs...120


seems like alot of money, but if he gets a sir2 swap, 2200+then a B18B block 400+
then labor, and the teardown of 2 motors and the complete rebuild of one.
economically the right choice is get the exact parts you want, do it all right the first time, or youlle be broke for a long time.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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you make perfect sense! but my plan was to out the ls swap in this summa! then start savin and lookinfor my parts, so i would have a whole year to save and look!, i want my car on the road this spring! my motor has 200xxx miles on it! butu are rite! i will think about what u told me!
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 10:49 AM
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Hey "All Motor EG" maybe I could have a 12 second hatch too, if your boy Tim from Upgrade ever sends me my motor. 9 months and counting...see my sig.

Didn't mean to hijack this thread, I'm just really pissed off right now.


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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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you make perfect sense! but my plan was to out the ls swap in this summa! then start savin and lookinfor my parts, so i would have a whole year to save and look!, i want my car on the road this spring! my motor has 200xxx miles on it! but u are rite! i will think about what u told me!
well if your motors got that many miles on it, why not pickup any single cam shortblock for dirt cheap, toss it in real quick and have a reliable motor while u save
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:31 AM
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well if your motors got that many miles on it, why not pickup any single cam shortblock for dirt cheap, toss it in real quick and have a reliable motor while u save
you are so rite! i will polly have to do that! but i dont want to give up 500 so he can put in a sohc vtec! u feel me!! but we will see!
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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well if your motors got that many miles on it, why not pickup any single cam shortblock for dirt cheap, toss it in real quick and have a reliable motor while u save
you are so rite! i will polly have to do that! but i dont want to give up 500 so he can put in a sohc vtec! u feel me!! but we will see!
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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u only need a block, the rest you can re-use
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