alright, i cant friggin decide what to do with my tax return. both options are very tempting.

option 1 - all motor

intake
headers
high flow cat
already have the exhaust
cam gears
cams
pullies
VAFC

option 2 - BOOST BABY
but if i go boost, it will be a low ammount of boost, like 7 PSI.

 

there's no replacement for displacement.... EXCEPT.... BOOOOOOOOOST..... ohhh yeah, boost is the only way to go IMO

 

all motor....why? reliability, less cost less headache and you still get decent gains..sure boost is great, when you car runs

and if you boost you can not do it half assed, or you will just flush money down the *******.

If you are a decent driver, you can beat most cars anyway.

 

If money is a factor, then all motor. I am not saying NA is cheap, but it's cheaper than FI. More parts are required to support FI.

 

It's unfair to say FI is more expensive than all motor. If you want close to the same gains with all motor as can be achieved with FI all motor becomes way more expensive.

I chose to keep my car NA because I'm going to college soon and don't need the reliability issues of a boosted car in college.

 

i would say that price is the main issue. i hate doing **** half assed, so if i do go boost then it will either be such a low ammount that it wont make much differance till oct when i can get the rest, or just not put it on till then. most likely the latter. but also i dont want my car in the shop all the time cause i put boost on a car thats ment for N/A. i got about a month to make my final decision.

 

you say that now...but when other things come up, you end up not finishing your build, then you have a half assed build up before you know it.

Its also more fulfilling for me, when you beat someone and they ask..whatcu got??

you reply i/h/e...they get angry...nothing better.

 

He listed the parts he wants for NA. You add up the list and get any turbo list and see which costs more. Who said anything about same power for NA and turbo? So I say again, if money is a factor and since you don't want to do a half *** job on anything, I'd say stay NA. The parts you listed will be ~$1900 to $2000 plus install and tuning. You can't get a kit for that amount let alone the gauges, injectors, boost controller, some type of fmu, etc (yeah I know some kits come with some of the listed parts but you get the idea).

 

I love boost, but if you don't have the money to build your motor later on then just go NA


[Modified by ChargedLude97, 6:17 PM 1/13/2003]

 

boost!!!

anyone that says n/a for reliabilty is wrong. things will go wrong just as easy w/both routes if not done propley. just as it will be just as reliable if done properly eathier way.

plus i had the same descion to make, but i was going all out. eathier boost of na/n20. in the looong run it will cost about the same or more for n/a. difference is boost you can get in sections and still see gains. not to say you must buy all na parts at once, but the ones you can buy in pieces yield low gains for the money...like a header for 500 bucks gets you 5 whp, wow.

you can have a good reliable 7 psi setup for under 3k.

turbo kit for 2400
hondata w/boost-less then 500.
both from 2k_teg

w/hondata and 7 psi you should see around 225-250whp, thats a gain of 65-90 whp.

try getting 90 whp for 3 grand na

 

all motor

 

<U></U> This guys a genius

 

fastlude22- im sticking with the stock ecu. from all that i have read, if i get a hondata, i loose atts. that is why i said a low ammount of boost as well. because i dont want to hit 280 whp and then just defeat the purpose of spending the extra money for the SH model. otherwise i would say screw it and go high boost and live with my car being in the shop all the time.

 

damn...... shoulda thought about thios when you bought the car, this is the reason why i didn't buy an SH, b/c i knew i wanted to turbo

 

yeah, i should have done my homework better... but hey, thats life. i am thinking all motor. although you are right boosted.... there is no replacement for displacement. unless its boost. but i could always drive my buddies wrx for that.
who knows. still got 2 weeks to decide.
thanks for the input guys.

Doug

 

not true....driver (YOU) are the replacement for displacement..learning how to drive will reap greater benefits than just throwing a turbo on your car.

Take your SH to the track where it belongs ...A damn monkey can drive straightline, there is very little skill involved in that.

you paid the extra money for ATTS now use it...it is more fun IMO to take hairpin @60 than it is to do 120 in a straight.

there are my .04cents..

 

120 in a hairpin is like 10,000 times better than either of the previously mentioned

 

i would love to. im not a bad driver by any means. and i would love to take it to a real street track, just need to practice more at things like hairpins and all that jazz. you are right, 120 (or 60) around a hairpin is sweet !!

 

boost is dangerous but fun...first if your thinkin boost..be smart build your motor for turbo...get everything upgraded....then go boost...so that will cost u aloot more...all motor is alot safer....turbo can kill an engine...my friend just canceled his turbo upgrade becuz he didn't have built internals and found it to be pointless becuz his motor wouldn't last long with the turbo

 

the best thing about going in a straight line IMO, is getting to tell everyone how fast your straight line time is. auto-x/road racing is where the real accomplishement is, but by saying you ran X amount of seconds on an auto-x course is no big deal, b/c they all vary, but when you say you ran a 10sec 1/4 mile, everyone knows how long that is, and how fast that is

 

Go with option one...you'll save yourself a lot of troubles in the long run

 

Refer to sig......

 

damn you Sam, always taking things to extremes ...I was trying to make sure no one kills themselves

 

ummm ok if you do it right the first time you wont have ur car in the shop all the time and if ATTS is such a concern to you just disable it...im going boost in about a year and i have an SH and im not going to sweat about. theres this one website where this guy with a turbo SH pushing more than 280whp and no probs...i forgot the site but im sure alot of people been there already..ill post it when i find it.

But since your on a budget..which is a good thing..go N/A...you wont be dissapointed....nothing like telling someone that you beat them with just I/H/E/P...hehe

 

but still..... it' really a lot of fun.... never done it in the Prelude, but i've taking some pretty nasty curves at some pretty high speeds in my Teg