as the question says

 

Yeah, you're crazy! Ca-Razeeee!

 

yeah, bad idea.
especially if you are young

 

not only does that bike wheelie with the twitch of a wrist, but its capable of breaking the rear tire loose in a turn. even with slicks. on a sticky track. let alone a tractionless dirty street. too many unknowns for me.

but you'd sure look cool riding around on it...no?

 

Yes, but he's gonna look way less cool riding besides or under it.

Dumb idea.

 

It's not crazy, but it's a bad idea in the long run. Given sufficent will power, any person can be as safe on a Gix1k as on a 250 Nighthawk.

.. But.. Insurance, crashing, and death aside, 80-90% of motorcycling is the rider. You buy a Gix1k, you're going to be riding at 10% of the bike's capability most of the time, which means the bike is sheltering you from your ride, meaning you don't grow as a rider as much as you would if you had to wring the Pi$$ out of an RZ350 or EX500. When you push one of them to their limit, you have a tendency to only push them 1 or 2 % over, and it's easier to recover and learn HOW to recover in those situations. On the Gix, if you accidentally push it one day, chances are you'll end up a lot further along on that scale than you expected, and it'll spank you.. _hard_.

You want something sexy, unique, fast, and fun, go buy a streetable NSR or RS 250.

I can't count the number of people on the track with RS125's that humiliate all the supersport riders that can't control their bikes.

 

Yep, don't do it.

 

Gixxer 1k is scary for any level rider. I know some guys who ride them, and stunt them, but they do not care if they live or die

The member who said you would not even use the full potential said it best. My next leap is a 750, in about 3-4 years. Even on my 600, by the time Im up to 11k RPM, it's time to shut it down

 

Dude! I would totally do it!

Edit: Please not my sarcasm.


[Modified by Kris, 3:53 AM 1/11/2003]

 

No you're not crazy, uninformed maybe. The GSXR1000 is NOT a beginner's bike. It doesn't matter how "control" you think you are, a new rider do not have the experience to what is a bike's limit or his/her limitations. With so much power, you will spend your time trying to maintain control instead of concentrating on your techniques, or traffic around you. Why the heck do you want a bike that size anyway? ... unless you're into poping wheelies on the freeway, or riding 2 up all the time...

 

Thats one reason i dont ride anything larger than a 250cc
i ride my 80cc on the track anyway.

 

My bike is hard to handle. I have had it for about 6 months now and i am still learning to ride it right. For a beginner, it will take at least 3 times longer to learn on a litre bike than if he was to go smaller like a ninja 250 or so. Save your money for a small bike and buy full leathers and a good helmet. Over time you will be a better rider because of it.


[Modified by turbogixxer, 2:58 PM 1/11/2003]

 

hey thats cool to hear someone with a turbo gixxer talking logically. most of you guys just talk nonsense from all the triple digit insanity you experience.

 

my 6 is enough triple digit insanity for me, hell the 500 did the same... and that was my first

 

Yeah, thats true, but I'm 25 now going on 26....I've calmed down a lot especially in my GSR...hopefully at my age, rates should be lower.... does anyone know insurance rates for a 25 year old single male, clean driving record?

 

you're very lucky, 25 is the plateau. You should be seeing about 1200 a year w/ full coverage on an 02ish 600... f4i for example. This is w/ no previous riding experience. Course if you go only liability you might see 400 or less a year. Of course holding a mc license for awhile helps (experience) and the bike as well. Think displacement, not sportiness. For example: and sv650, very competant twin... joy to ride, a bit on the sportier side will insure for more than an f4i. Ninjas sometimes get bad rates w/ certain companies as do r6/r1s and sometimes gixxers. Don't ask, just my experience. State farm gives very good rates if you use them for your automobile insurance, especially if the bike is for leisure and not the main source of transportation.

 

well you ARE crazy if your thinkin about a gixxer 1k as yer first bike but other people ive talked to started with something just as big and ride fine... i know someone who started with an RC-51 but was trained by his closest friends who've been riding for years so...its all on how you can CONTROL the power of that machine...


go to progressive.com

 

Okay I will....

as far a s a starter bike I think a used CBR 600 would be cool

at my local dealership they had a red/black/white 97 CBR600with 3K miles on it for $3000. It seemed to look pretty mint condition too.
Is that a good deal

 

A note on progressive.com

The quote they give you online will probably not even be close to what you'll actually pay. I've done it 4 or 5 times, and it's always been wrong. Your best bet is to call and talk to someone, just like you do with the other companies.

I have my bike & car insurance through progressive.

 

That would be a pretty good deal, given the mileage. It's still a lot of bike to learn on, but a lot more reasonable than the Gix1k.

 

try geico cycle-guard. they smote progressine by about $600.00 with WAY more coverage.

 

Progressive: CBR 1100 XX full coverage in CA, 34 years old, married, 1 ticket, 6 years licensed
-> 4,700/year bwahaha (I am paying 900 for better coverage)

Geico: they give away radar guns to local PDs -> there is no way I am going to get insurance from them. **** them.

 

Very bad idea I own one and have been riding for 12 years.....way too much power for a beginner. Just so you know....it's commonly referred to around here as the "Death Rocket" Learn how to ride on a 600 is your best bet.

 

I know I am going to catch **** for this but here goes...

I have been riding motorcycles for about 22 years. I am 27 now. My first street bike was a '93 CBR900RR. That was the first street bike I had ever ridden. Up to that point it was all dirtbikes. The key to learning to ride IMHO is knowing your limits and not exceeding them. You can kill yourself just as easily on a '84 CB500 as you can on an '03 GSXR1000. I hear people give bad advice all the time like, "Go get an old beater bike and learn to ride on that before you move up to a sport bike..." Why? Learn to ride a cruiser or a touring bike just to move on to a sport bike that handles totally differently and responds totally differently?

What I generally tell people is to get what you want, but understand that you are going to put the bike down sooner or later. It is a fact. If you choose to learn on an $11000 bike and feel comfortable with the knowledge that you are going to crash it probably before you even have it paid off, then be my guest. Myself on the other hand, I would want to buy something that I can learn on that is not going to totally ruinn my year when I crash it, because you are going to crash for one reason or another...


And if you do go with the 1000, jsut remember that full-throttle launches are a really, really bad idea...

 

And one more thing, if you don't crash it, chances are, you'll probably tip over the bike on it's stand-stand or loose your balance at a stop light and drop it. Embrassing as heck, but it happens to the best of us.

Might as well happen on a "cheaper" bike. And remember, those bikes get heavy, so make sure you can lift 350+lbs of bike.

Good luck!