Ok im thinking about doing this brake upgrade:
It will be going on my 1989 honda civic si

Integra type R, 91-94 honda accord wagon calipers.(same)

93-96 honda prelude vtec rotors(must be vtec) (11" stock)

90-91 civic ex or integra (any year) nuckles-hubs

typeR 4 lug front disks

note:
the prelude disks will need to be drilled out to the 4x100 to match the teg/ex hubs.

i will let you know as to how this setup goes.

any questions post or email@ tuneacivic@hotmail.com



-larry




[Modified by 4gsicivichatch, 12:43 AM 1/8/2003]

 

screw that , just go with a fastbrakes kit.


[Modified by Ef *****, 6:18 PM 1/7/2003]

 

I will have a better setup for less money.
It is a whole ITR setup not just a 11" rotor with the undersized civic caliper.

look how much the fast brake kit with the calipers is
this setup is half the price and im not useing an adaptor of any kind.

 

how do you think the fastbrakes are a better setup????
the cheapest setup bastbrakes sells that is better than that one is 675$$$
how do you get that being cheap? i will have about 200 in this setup and its a better setup than the fastbrakes setup that is 340$$: stock Integra/Civic EX calipers.

show me where there's a better setup for cheaper than 200-250?

 

why are you wasting money on brakes? not to nix your plans. if you want to do it, you can. that sounds like an ok setup, but you can use that money for something else, really.

 

i will be autocrossing it
brakes are a nessesity

 

10.5 in brakes with sir (integra or civic ex) calipers are beter than..
Integra typeR caliper's with 11" rotors??? thats news to me..

 

how are you going to mount the caliper to the knuckle? fastbrakes sells the adaptor..... are you just trying to copy the fastbrakes kit?

 

nope:

90-91 civic ex ot integra(any year) knuckel and hub
The hub on the stock si knuckle is alot smaller then the hub on the integra thus the bigger hub is better designed for the 11"rotor i have heard aganst useing fastbrakes besause of this issue.

 

the 91-94 accord wagon calipers(ITR) are the most effictive cost efficient caliper in this setup why would you wast money on less of a brake system?

the rotors dont get new holes they get the old ones redrilled
if that is an issue order any 11" integra (not the itr 5 lug) rotor like AEM will also work in this setup.
Any rotor even one that is not modified is prone to stress cracks in this setup with the added rotor size and caliper size it is deff worth it i do not think it will be an issue at all but if it is to somone get the aem integra 11" rotor.

 

if you're good at autocrossing, you don't need brakes.. i've been autoxing for the last 2.5 years, this whole year with a b16a and stock brakes with hawk HP+ pads and ss lines. i haven't had a problem yet... bigger brakes prohibits you from using something you REALLY need for autocrossing, which is wider tires. invest in some 13x9 wheels with 235/45-13 tires. they will do more help than brakes will.

 

PLEASE not another brake topic?

Go with the setup in mind ! It is far better than you have now and the Accord caliper has a much bigger piston than the SiR's caliper (I know, and have pictures to prove it). Get some 10,2" rotors for use with your current knuckle or 11" rotors for fitment on the EX civic or SiR knuckle. Only mod required is shimming of the brackets.

 

I might look into that the thing is i dont think i can use the accord caliper with my stock knuckle correct me if i am wrong..
now if you could but the adapter bracket separately from fastbrakes that would work but i think it only comes in the kit with the integra or ex calipers

 

hey, i was in altoona. for work, though...

but if you're doing autoxing, you'll be moved to SM or DM/EM


[Modified by Rexman, 12:26 AM 1/8/2003]

 

How did the set up work for someone who is NOT interested in wider wheels just for the track? I was <u>very</u> close to buying the parts for the swap described last weekend, but decided to do some more research first.
Glad to see somebody who actually ran this setup before. So, how was it?

 

The reason I ask is because I have stock size slotted rotors, SS braided lines (goodridge), and carbon-metallic aftermarket pads. This combination slows well; however, when coming to a complete stop from high speed (say, over 50mph), there is a point where no matter how hard you stand on the brake pedal, the car ceases to stop with any more braking force. There is simply no more "modulation" in the brake system. To note, the brake system is in top order with regard to condition & being effectively bled (I also use super blue fluid).
My aim in upgrading to larger diameter rotors is to enact more leverage with slightly more clamping force to remedy this condition. -SSL
And yes, I am also upgrading the brake booster & master cylinder with items from a 1991 Civic EX Sedan.
&lt;edit: for emphesis&gt;


[Modified by milk, 9:30 PM 1/7/2003]

 

For now i am going to go with 2000 civic si knuckles calipers and rotors if i dont feel the stoping power to be sufficient i will upgrade to the setup i listed above it will be easier because i will have the civic si,ex knuckle so i will need the accord caliper and prelude rotor's or AEM civic ex 11' rotors. which is the way i think i will go.

 

i was thinking just going for a whole 2000 SiR swaps.
some guy is selling 400 cdn. for everything
lines, nuckles, lca. trailing arms..everything
would this be good? and would it work?
like is it a simple bolt and stuff?
not bad brakes
but umm, are the rears going to be changed to disc as well? or you keeping drums?

 

Good for you!

Remember Accord/Lude/ITR calipers needs shimming for DIRECT bolting onto 4th gen knuckles , using |&gt; 5th gen knuckles don't

Also get braking pads with a low to mediate working temperature (EBC greens, Ferodo DS2000) .. Pads do the stopping not a bigger piston and/or rotor..

 

thnks

when you say shimming what do you meen?

 

Actually it is not shimming but SHAVING.. sorry I made that mistake before.. I mean you shave off 3-4 mm to fit the bracket between rotor and knuckle otherwise it would be to thick

 

I was gona say i didnt shimmimg would do anything thanks for clearing up im going with the 2000 si brakes for now ill let you know how it goes.

-larry