What Does the VW 1.8t run in the 1/4?????
At a sea level track the 150 hp GTI's will run mid to high 15's stock depending on driver and traction.
The 180hp GTI's should be low 15's with the stock shitlins and no mods.
The newer 180 GTI's respond very well to a chip/ 3" downpipe and 3" exhaust mod. Mostly low 14's but high 13's are possible with drag radials or slicks.
Strong motors but the overall weight of the car hurts it somewhat I know a 1.8t owner who ran 12.20's with chip, FMIC, dp, exhaust and a 75/100 shot + slicks.... not bad for a car that weighs 3100lbs w/driver and stock (tiny) turbo.
He has since upgraded the turbo and should be in the high 11's this year....stock bottom end....not bad
The 180hp GTI's should be low 15's with the stock shitlins and no mods.
The newer 180 GTI's respond very well to a chip/ 3" downpipe and 3" exhaust mod. Mostly low 14's but high 13's are possible with drag radials or slicks.
Strong motors but the overall weight of the car hurts it somewhat I know a 1.8t owner who ran 12.20's with chip, FMIC, dp, exhaust and a 75/100 shot + slicks.... not bad for a car that weighs 3100lbs w/driver and stock (tiny) turbo.
He has since upgraded the turbo and should be in the high 11's this year....stock bottom end....not bad
My friend's 2000 bug with the 1.8t, runs an APR chip with the FPR and a 2.5" exhaust. She has run some 14.90s. She has a problem getting it off the line, or thw car would run closer to the 14.6s. The 60 foot times are usually in the 2.3 range...
Jason
Jason
I know of a few GTI's that are running high 13's to low 14's. They are chipped, (GIAC), intake, down pipe, K04 turbo, 3 inch turbo back exhaust, and cheater slicks. I had one for a few months with chip, intake, and dv. It made a night and day diff. from stock.
the older ones were dogs(mid-high 15's)
but the newer ones are getting down with little mods
[Modified by JonathanH, 6:03 AM 1/8/2003]
but the newer ones are getting down with little mods
[Modified by JonathanH, 6:03 AM 1/8/2003]
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slow.2@embarrasing mph
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
3000lbs + 112traps = some nice power being made
2000lbs + 105 traps= not even close to the same power
For the record I am only trapping 101 w 2450lbs so my traps arent great either....N/A but still nothing special.
2000lbs + 105 traps= not even close to the same power
For the record I am only trapping 101 w 2450lbs so my traps arent great either....N/A but still nothing special.
slow.2@embarrasing mph
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
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i think it's quite funny how they hate on
so much and they think that their cars are superior. i wonder why they are scared of my 1.8t and never want to race? 1.8t vs. 1.8t...the majority of them are plain slow. i know in the 1/8th they are high 9sec/low 10sec. that is pathetic.
so much and they think that their cars are superior. i wonder why they are scared of my 1.8t and never want to race? 1.8t vs. 1.8t...the majority of them are plain slow. i know in the 1/8th they are high 9sec/low 10sec. that is pathetic.
slow.2@embarrasing mph
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
FYI: My friend who will be running 11's with his 1.8t will be on a stock bottom end and a stock head and full interior ....... I know of only a handful of Honda's that can make that kind of power on a stock bottom end without their motors blowing up.
Dont hate. 1.8t motors are pretty good they may not make as much hp as some VTEC motors stock for stock but their bottom ends are almost bullet proof.
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
of coure a turbo motor is going to be faster than the majority of n/a motors. you are comparing apples to oranges.
my initial point is that i think its funny how a "stock" 1.8t is slower than alot of stock 1.8 n/a cars.
[Modified by BustaNutt-616, 2:14 PM 1/11/2003]
This is a silly argument you guys are having. It truly is apples & oranges. My ITR w I/E & test pipe runs 14.3 @ 97 (best time), I havent timed my GTI yet but it feels like a 91-92 mph trap car in bone stock form, cant say that my K&N drop in has done anything for me.
The reason I bought the GTI was plain and simple! It's a car that can be driven daily without the constant fear of some lowlife scumbag Honda owner that is foaming at the mouth for your ITR parts. The biggest reason I got the car was that 1.8T's have no value on the black market. Even VR6's are at a greater risk due to their relatively easy swaps into MKII cars.
The reason I bought the GTI was plain and simple! It's a car that can be driven daily without the constant fear of some lowlife scumbag Honda owner that is foaming at the mouth for your ITR parts. The biggest reason I got the car was that 1.8T's have no value on the black market. Even VR6's are at a greater risk due to their relatively easy swaps into MKII cars.
good reason to own one. plus it helps other homosexuals identify you on the street. you havent seen the commercials?
[Modified by BustaNutt-616, 4:08 PM 1/11/2003]
[Modified by BustaNutt-616, 4:08 PM 1/11/2003]
slow.2@embarrasing mph
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
FYI: My friend who will be running 11's with his 1.8t will be on a stock bottom end and a stock head and full interior ....... I know of only a handful of Honda's that can make that kind of power on a stock bottom end without their motors blowing up.
Dont hate. 1.8t motors are pretty good they may not make as much hp as some VTEC motors stock for stock but their bottom ends are almost bullet proof.
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
FYI: My friend who will be running 11's with his 1.8t will be on a stock bottom end and a stock head and full interior ....... I know of only a handful of Honda's that can make that kind of power on a stock bottom end without their motors blowing up.
Dont hate. 1.8t motors are pretty good they may not make as much hp as some VTEC motors stock for stock but their bottom ends are almost bullet proof.
Um.... i'm gonna call you on the BS to help defend VW's... cause Currently there are only 5 or 1.8t's running low 12's.
Now you say your friend is already trapping 115mph, in full interior jetta, now that is just around 3000lbs w/200lb driver which means he is already making around 360-370whp...which means he already has a Stage 3 car with spray. so i dunno what more he is gonna do. Now to say he is gonna run 11's with stock block. Since it's been proven that the stock block can hold 456whp... it will be close... but i also don't think anyone can duplicate the setup of that car..
1. Billy T - 12.2 @ 114 t3/t4 stripped interior, slicks/skinnies (though never made a clean pass with his new setup that layed down 450whp...
2. Ric F - Stripped interior 24.5x8 slicks, stock k03 sport turbo 100jet spray so around 150whp shot. 12.2 @ 113.9
3. Troy - T3/T4 + spray 12.4 @ 117 @ 6000ft . no back seats car weigh 3000lbs
slow.2@embarrasing mph
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
FYI: My friend who will be running 11's with his 1.8t will be on a stock bottom end and a stock head and full interior ....... I know of only a handful of Honda's that can make that kind of power on a stock bottom end without their motors blowing up.
Dont hate. 1.8t motors are pretty good they may not make as much hp as some VTEC motors stock for stock but their bottom ends are almost bullet proof.
Um.... i'm gonna call you on the BS to help defend VW's... cause Currently there are only 5 or 1.8t's running low 12's.
Now you say your friend is already trapping 115mph, in full interior jetta, now that is just around 3000lbs w/200lb driver which means he is already making around 360-370whp...which means he already has a Stage 3 car with spray. so i dunno what more he is gonna do. Now to say he is gonna run 11's with stock block. Since it's been proven that the stock block can hold 456whp... it will be close... but i also don't think anyone can duplicate the setup of that car..
1. Billy T - 12.2 @ 114 t3/t4 stripped interior, slicks/skinnies (though never made a clean pass with his new setup that layed down 450whp...
2. Ric F - Stripped interior 24.5x8 slicks, stock k03 sport turbo 100jet spray so around 150whp shot. 12.2 @ 113.9
3. Troy - T3/T4 + spray 12.4 @ 117 @ 6000ft . no back seats car weigh 3000lbs
you know whats funny is my jetta went 13.2@106mph and my friends went 12.7@115 so if 106 and 115 is embarrasing then your mph is a joke too. so unless you run 120+ traps which no 1.8t in the country runs i would be careful when you use the word embarrasing.
[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 1:54 AM 1/8/2003]
yeah.. the only difference is that my motor is a 1.8 NATURALLY ASPIRATED and you have a turbo
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
FYI: My friend who will be running 11's with his 1.8t will be on a stock bottom end and a stock head and full interior ....... I know of only a handful of Honda's that can make that kind of power on a stock bottom end without their motors blowing up.
Dont hate. 1.8t motors are pretty good they may not make as much hp as some VTEC motors stock for stock but their bottom ends are almost bullet proof.
Um.... i'm gonna call you on the BS to help defend VW's... cause Currently there are only 5 or 1.8t's running low 12's.
Now you say your friend is already trapping 115mph, in full interior jetta, now that is just around 3000lbs w/200lb driver which means he is already making around 360-370whp...which means he already has a Stage 3 car with spray. so i dunno what more he is gonna do. Now to say he is gonna run 11's with stock block. Since it's been proven that the stock block can hold 456whp... it will be close... but i also don't think anyone can duplicate the setup of that car..
1. Billy T - 12.2 @ 114 t3/t4 stripped interior, slicks/skinnies (though never made a clean pass with his new setup that layed down 450whp...
2. Ric F - Stripped interior 24.5x8 slicks, stock k03 sport turbo 100jet spray so around 150whp shot. 12.2 @ 113.9
3. Troy - T3/T4 + spray 12.4 @ 117 @ 6000ft . no back seats car weigh 3000lbs
Funny you mention Ric.....thats who my friend is. He and I compete in the same Import series and were in a close points battle this year (I won the championship, but I never got a chance to line up with him)
He will go 11's this year with his new setup, that K03 sport turbo was maxed out. His new combo is night and day faster than his old setup and I see him runnin low 12's here at 3000ft = mid to high 11's at sea level.
Ric was a honda guy. I dont hate on 1.8t's and was actually gonna buy one....
Ric still needs an LSD, I can see him picking up at least another 2 tenths with the addition of one. Lots of room left in his setup. Billy should have gone low 11's with his power but that car is sold (I think some guys know why too
) but Ric is turning quite a few heads up here and making fools of alot of **** talking V8 owners (not all of them are, but you know what I mean)FWIW on streets I was still quicker than him N/A when he was off the bottle
But now I dont think it will even be close
To Ric.
A weak trap is a weak trap. Dont use N/A to shield your lack of power.
if you think turbo's dont have anything to do with with adding power and mph you are a complete moron.
of coure a turbo motor is going to be faster than the majority of n/a motors. you are comparing apples to oranges.
my initial point is that i think its funny how a "stock" 1.8t is slower than alot of stock 1.8 n/a cars.
[Modified by BustaNutt-616, 2:14 PM 1/11/2003]
106 means from a roll a 1.8t trapping 106-110 would leave you hard, especially up top....hell youd have trouble keeping up with a 1.8t trapping 104 but whatever...here's a tissue for your "waa waaa waa's"
Dont know if you meant to call BS on me or that other guy but FWIW...
Funny you mention Ric.....thats who my friend is. He and I compete in the same Import series and were in a close points battle this year (I won the championship, but I never got a chance to line up with him)
He will go 11's this year with his new setup, that K03 sport turbo was maxed out. His new combo is night and day faster than his old setup and I see him runnin low 12's here at 3000ft = mid to high 11's at sea level.
Ric was a honda guy. I dont hate on 1.8t's and was actually gonna buy one....
Ric still needs an LSD, I can see him picking up at least another 2 tenths with the addition of one. Lots of room left in his setup. Billy should have gone low 11's with his power but that car is sold (I think some guys know why too
) but Ric is turning quite a few heads up here and making fools of alot of **** talking V8 owners (not all of them are, but you know what I mean)
FWIW on streets I was still quicker than him N/A when he was off the bottle
But now I dont think it will even be close
To Ric.
Funny you mention Ric.....thats who my friend is. He and I compete in the same Import series and were in a close points battle this year (I won the championship, but I never got a chance to line up with him)
He will go 11's this year with his new setup, that K03 sport turbo was maxed out. His new combo is night and day faster than his old setup and I see him runnin low 12's here at 3000ft = mid to high 11's at sea level.
Ric was a honda guy. I dont hate on 1.8t's and was actually gonna buy one....
Ric still needs an LSD, I can see him picking up at least another 2 tenths with the addition of one. Lots of room left in his setup. Billy should have gone low 11's with his power but that car is sold (I think some guys know why too
) but Ric is turning quite a few heads up here and making fools of alot of **** talking V8 owners (not all of them are, but you know what I mean)FWIW on streets I was still quicker than him N/A when he was off the bottle
But now I dont think it will even be close
To Ric.
As for Billy... he replaced the block. and put it back to stock more or less and got a A2 vr6 (he's not doin the 1.8t a2 project... just workin on his boys). so other then the fact that the car was smote to ****... person got a decent car haha
Tim
[Modified by itsukivr6, 1:00 AM 1/14/2003]
Looks like your the moron...all that talking and your still stuck with a 106 trap...N/A or Turbo doesnt matter..... , and your trap is "weak" by your own standards...now stop crying about being N/A and go make some more power.....when you start trapping in the teens 113+ than you can call 105-109 "weak" till then STFU
106 means from a roll a 1.8t trapping 106-110 would leave you hard, especially up top....hell youd have trouble keeping up with a 1.8t trapping 104 but whatever...here's a tissue for your "waa waaa waa's"
lmao. what do you run? go learn some grammar.
I am running 14.0's@97-98mph at 3000ft with a stock US ITR motor (I/H) on an Si ecu spinning to 8000....so about a 13.60@101 or so at sea level on dot drag radials in an EK.
With my new mods I am looking to hit high 12's (sea level) with a I/H/cam gears/ clutch and flywheel/ 98 ITR ecu.....still on drag radials. Daily driven with stock internals (including cams)
I should be trapping around 104 maybe 105 but I am more focused on squeezing the ET out...which as you should know lowers your trapspeed.
But what does it matter the tap is still "weak" *rolls eyes*
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