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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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Default Honda MTF or 10w40 motor oil?

Done some searching, just trying to see how many people are using motor oil compared to Honda MTF in their transmissions. Someone suggested I use Castrol GTX 10w40, which would offer more protection than the honda mtf....any thoughts??


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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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Do not use motor oil. Use Tranny Fluid.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Motor oil..in your transmission?

uhmm..
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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Thats what MTF is! it just has a detergent.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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Thats what MTF is! it just has a detergent.


but just for a peace of mind i'd go with OEM MTF.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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how much MTF going in the teg trasnny anyway...i could look but im lazy, and whats the cost of honda mtf just for refrence
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:04 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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I just bought 2 quarts of HMTF for $9 and change at my local dealer
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:42 PM
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Ok....I broke out my owner's manual and this is what it says:

"Only use an API Service SF or SG grade motor oil with a viscosity of SAI 10W-30 or 10W-40."
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Ok....I broke out my owner's manual and this is what it says:

"Only use an API Service SF or SG grade motor oil with a viscosity of SAI 10W-30 or 10W-40."
Depends on what year Integra you have. The G2 and earlier G3 Integras say use motor oil but the later ones say use Honda MTF. Anyway, I myself have a 94gsr and have tried 10w-30, 10w-40, and Honda MTF for my tranny and the best of the group was the Honda MTF. With the Honda MTF, the shifts were very easy and smooth. 10w-30 was the worst, going into gear was hard, shifted like crap.
10w-40 was better but not by much.

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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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what would i use for my 97??
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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they say to use 10w-40 motor oil as a temporary solution if no Honda MTF is available.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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they say to use 10w-40 motor oil as a temporary solution if no Honda MTF is available.
that is correct. The fluid itself should have a weight of 10w30, but you should not use motor oil for long-term use. NEVER EVER use synthetic motor oil, it is much too slick for the synchros to function properly, which requires friction. Use Honda MTF, or if you really want synthetic use Redline MTL, which is a synthetic fluid with a 10w30 weight plus friction additives for proper synchro engagement.

oh and you will need to buy 3 quarts, since the tranny takes something like 2.3 qts. to fill it up to the filler hole.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:29 PM
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i work at acura as a mechanic... we use 10w 30 in all our trannys, when we preform service on them... Think a tranny has gears... Motor oil works better
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:35 PM
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Where do you buy Redline MTF??? i checked with autozone, strauss, and pep boys. They didn't have redline nor honda mtf.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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i work at acura as a mechanic... we use 10w 30 in all our trannys, when we preform service on them... Think a tranny has gears... Motor oil works better
and that is why my car will never be serviced at a dealer, not even using the stuff the manufacturer calls for.... a Honda dealer in Memphis told me they don't even use the Honda coolant.

Buy Honda MTF from a Honda/Acura dealer.... buy Redline oils from either Redline (if they sell to the public) or some online retailer... speed shops usually carry it, too, but it's marked up more.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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i work at acura as a mechanic... we use 10w 30 in all our trannys, when we preform service on them... Think a tranny has gears... Motor oil works better
Busted!!
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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Consult your manual. Honda MTF
Look at your poll. Honda MTF
Motor Oil (less viscosity = better)
Tranny Fluid (there's a certain amount of viscosity needed)

..just trying to help you out.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Consult your manual. Honda MTF
Look at your poll. Honda MTF
Motor Oil (less viscosity = better)
Tranny Fluid (there's a certain amount of viscosity needed)

..just trying to help you out.
My manual doesn't say anything about Honda MTF. That's why I made the poll.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Honda MTF or 10w40 motor oil? (ebelp)

if you use oil instead of OEM MTF, how often would you have to change it? I change my oil every 3-4000 kilometers.
The transmission has more moving parts, so wouldnt it wear out the oil faster?
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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the reason your engine oil gets dirty is b/c of the fuel.. No moving parts make it dirty its the fuel... but if u wanna use MTF go ahead.. I just gave my option.. Hope u find a good solution bud.
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Old Dec 29, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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OEM and nothing else.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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i work at acura as a mechanic... we use 10w 30 in all our trannys, when we preform service on them... Think a tranny has gears... Motor oil works better
Let me know what dealer you work at so I'll be sure not to go there. I tried Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil and it was like, scratch here cratch there, it sucked!

HONDA MTF
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 04:49 AM
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Q.) Why must I use Honda-brand transmission fluid in my manual transmission?

A.) Like the Honda vehicles for which it's formulated, the Genuine Honda manual transmission fluid has undergone an exhaustive and exacting research and development program. When tested against competitors, it demonstrated superior lubricity in an actual Honda 5-speed transmission. And even at -20°C, it clearly performed significantly better than leading competitors.

Genuine Honda manual transmission fluid is designed for smooth engagement of the synchronizers in the transmission; this maximizes smooth gear engagement and prolongs component durability.

Always use Genuine Honda manual transmission fluid. If Honda MTF is not available, you may use an API service SG, SH or SJ grade motor oil with a viscosity of SAE 10W-30 or 10W-40 as a temporary replacement.

However, motor oil does not contain the proper additives and continued use may cause stiffer shifting. Replace as soon as convenient.
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