3 Stage VTEC D15B(Y5?)

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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:19 PM
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Anyone know anything about it? Where can I get one? What are your opinions,ETC...
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:32 PM
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http://www.hmotorsonlie.com
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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Doesn't the three stage version of the JDM D15B have two solenoids? I'm happy with my D15B. It's pretty quick. You can also get them at http://www.ardperformance.com. They also sell SOHC ZC VTECs.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 06:02 PM
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There's no such thing as a "staged" VTEC. VTEC is either OFF or ON, there is no stage 1, 2, 3 thing, whatever your talking about.

All VTEC does is engage a larger set of cam lobes, and if Honda wanted to do this on any engine, they're have done it on the DOHC VTEC, to allow different VTEC engagement points on the intake/exhaust cams strictly for performance.

Also, no SOHC VTEC ever had VTEC on anything but the intake lobes. Honda never touched the exhaust sides.
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 06:31 PM
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All that means is that the engine runs in 12 vavle mode until 3k the first solenoid activates, and it runs at 16 valve mode. After 6k, the second solenoid activates and the wild cam is engaged.
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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I think you are refering to the VTEC-E motor. It's a super economy motor found in the later HX models. It's not a performance motor.

VTEC-E - Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control for Efficiency. This system isn't really VTEC as we know it. At low RPM, the VTEC-E mechanism effectively forces the engine to operate as a 12-valve engine - one of the intake valves does not open fully, thus decreasing fuel consumption. At a set RPM value (i.e., ~2500RPM in the D16Y5), the VTEC-E mechanism engages the 2nd intake valve, effectively resuming operation as a normal 16-valve engine. Note: in a VTEC-E engine, there are no high-RPM performance cam profiles; this engine is supposed to be tuned for fuel economy, right?

Cool thing about this motor is that it has roller rockers
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There's no such thing as a "staged" VTEC. VTEC is either OFF or ON, there is no stage 1, 2, 3 thing, whatever your talking about.

All VTEC does is engage a larger set of cam lobes, and if Honda wanted to do this on any engine, they're have done it on the DOHC VTEC, to allow different VTEC engagement points on the intake/exhaust cams strictly for performance.

Also, no SOHC VTEC ever had VTEC on anything but the intake lobes. Honda never touched the exhaust sides.</TD></TR></TABLE> =&gt;Your'e a moron!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Blue_Si03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All that means is that the engine runs in 12 vavle mode until 3k the first solenoid activates, and it runs at 16 valve mode. After 6k, the second solenoid activates and the wild cam is engaged.</TD></TR></TABLE> =&gt;

Sorry if I had to bring this up. I have a 3 stage vtec on my 2001 vti. Heres a pic to prove it.






Notice the two actuators on top of the IM. And notice that it doesn't have a distributor. My car is an A/T and it runs 15 to 20 Km/L in the city.
It runs 12-valve mode, then when it reaches 2,500rpm it runs 16 valve mode. Then @ 5000 rpm the wild cam profile engages.

Good day!
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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That engine code doesn't look like a d15y, does it, bitch?
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Old Jun 1, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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well the vti does not exist to America, so there is a valid reason as for why he wouldn't have known.

Just like anyone who says Hondas don't come stock w/ turbos don't know what they are talking about, cause here in europe there are stock Turbo hondas.

We can't fault them for not knowing about the EU, AUS, or JDM Market completely, as they don't have the same easy access to it liek we do
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That engine code doesn't look like a d15y, does it, bitch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its a 1.6L and this is in the Philippines. I do not know the JDM equivalent of this motor, d16 something I guess.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshymkiw83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the vti does not exist to America, so there is a valid reason as for why he wouldn't have known.

Just like anyone who says Hondas don't come stock w/ turbos don't know what they are talking about, cause here in europe there are stock Turbo hondas.

We can't fault them for not knowing about the EU, AUS, or JDM Market completely, as they don't have the same easy access to it liek we do</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, sorry if I was offensive on that post. Its just the way he spoke as if he knew everything about vtec.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emong3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> =&gt;Your'e a moron!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I really wouldn't call someone with a 300hp b16a a moron.

We don't have that engine here in the states nor would it be one that we'd really want anyways. Also seems honda is really dumbed down the VTI's in the years. At least the VTI CRX had a b16a.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That engine code doesn't look like a d15y, does it, bitch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

He was primarily asking about three stage vtec...which there is such a thing available, btw. He asked if it was a y5...not stated such. Now play nice, especially when you're wrong.

Quoted from TOV http://asia.vtec.net/article/d15b/:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the EK-generation Civics, development on the D15B engine finally culminated in the now famous 3-stage VTEC D15B. This engine is used on the current generation EK3 VTi and Ferio Vi. 3-Stage VTEC D15B is a wonder engine in that Honda took the technologies of the VTEC-E and VTEC-D15B engines and merged them into one single engine. This implementation, already covered elsewhere in TOVA, allowed Honda to give us an engine that is both economical and powerful. So, who says we can't have our cake and eat it too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Emong3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, sorry if I was offensive on that post. Its just the way he spoke as if he knew everything about vtec. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I know everything I need to know aobut a performance motor... I don't care to know everything about the econo-motors because they aren't an enthusuast interest.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 03:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshymkiw83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well the vti does not exist to America, so there is a valid reason as for why he wouldn't have known.

Just like anyone who says Hondas don't come stock w/ turbos don't know what they are talking about, cause here in europe there are stock Turbo hondas.

We can't fault them for not knowing about the EU, AUS, or JDM Market completely, as they don't have the same easy access to it liek we do</TD></TR></TABLE> there are stock honda turbo's i want more info on that, the only stock turbo honda in the states is a jet ski. there only like 1.2 liters but they put out 165 hp
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 03:14 AM
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Look up the Honda City Turbo... and the Honda Legend came as a V6 turbo as well.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 03:37 AM
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yeah i looked them up the city turbo is weak, and the legend turbo is sweet but its a v6 and i like civics, to bad i was excited there for a second.
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Old Jun 2, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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City Turbo isn't weak. Its a damn fast 4cyl car for its time.
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 02:47 AM
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dodge turbo cars of that same era are faster, 100 hp turbo car = weak in my book
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 03:02 AM
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There is a stock Turbo Accord and a Turbo Civic over here in EU. Only problem is they are diesel.

go to http://www.honda.de look for the CTDI Civc or Accord..... More info is there
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR Kid &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know everything I need to know aobut a performance motor... I don't care to know everything about the econo-motors because they aren't an enthusuast interest.</TD></TR></TABLE>

did you even read the article ranta18 posted???
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kshymkiw83 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is a stock Turbo Accord and a Turbo Civic over here in EU. Only problem is they are diesel.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so whats the horsepower in those cars
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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i think that k. watanabe in los angeles has thoose vti motors.......i hear they run really good on a t-25 with 10psi
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wtsexton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I really wouldn't call someone with a 300hp b16a a moron.

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right because it automatically makes you a genius
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