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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Okay......my search has led me to a 2000 PY ITR in the Pittsburgh area at a Subaru dealership. Yes, the owner had traded in on a WRX.

It's got approx. 26K in mileage and seems pretty mint. I'm waiting on pics from the dealership. The salesman informed me that it has some mods from what he can tell. He discribed something to the lines of an Apexi VAFC, exhaust, and the previous owner had lowered the vehicle. On what, I don't know. I'm hoping it's just springs.

The purpose of me getting an ITR is to start autoxing in the STOCK class, so I'm a little concerned with purchasing an ITR from a dealership with some mods on it. My main concern is having the factory warranty void and null from some nimrods modifications.

Also, the salesman slipped on some info that the previous owner had just traded in on the 10th of December for his new WRX that he decided to total this past weekend. NOT A GOOD SIGN THAT THE OWNER DROVE THE ITR WITH CARE IN MY OPINION. The owner is getting another WRX supposively.

The asking price is VERY considerable!!!

So should I even pursue this any further?? It's about a 6 hour drive from me, so it's not a very easy distance to travel to maybe purchase a vehicle. It kinda needs to be a sure thing for me.

My concerns are as follows:

1) It's not stock. I'd have to invest some time and money in returning everything back to stock. But the purchase price well makes up for it.

2) Previous owner has just wrecked the new WRX he had traded in the ITR for just this month.

PLEASE HELP!!!! It would make a nice Xmas present if things work out in my favor.

Thank you, kindly

Edit: VIN # has been Carfaxed and come up clean. One owner registration.


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Avoid dealers like the plague. You can find a clean unmolested R from an enthusiast if you look hard enough. Be patient.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (BrewCityR)

My only reason for looking at dealerships at this time is because I have a trade in that has a lein on it so I'll end up saving a good amount of $ on taxes.

Plus, the price the dealership is asking is great. I don't think they really know what they have on their hands.


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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My only reason for looking at dealerships at this time is because I have a trade in that has a lein on it so I'll end up saving a good amount of $ on taxes.

Plus, the price the dealership is asking is great. I don't think they really know what they have on their hands.


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thats imposible ...dealers always know what they got on there hands ....and will markup no ,matter what ....there MUST be something wrong with .,...

stay away from it ..
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:38 AM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (jstock107)

If the price is "too good to be true," then it probably is.

If it's been treated harshly, number of things could go wrong on ITR.

Also, just because carfax doesn't have any history, it doesn't mean it's "clean". If the owner paid out of his pocket, then there will be no record of accident, repairs, warrnaty claim, etc.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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How much are they asking? There was one here in Columbus a few weeks ago at an Acura dealership and they were asking 14,900 but teh guy ran it to hell and blew the motor so they swapped in a new motor, pretty good price there but who knew what else was wrong
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:43 AM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (steves98itr247)

$17995

It's a borderline "too good to be true" price IMO. That's why I don't know what to do.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (jstock107)

Hrm, i wonder if it's the kid who had altezzas on his R, he's about the only yellow pittsburgh R i didn't know that well....yos and shawn still have theirs i'm pretty sure.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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see if one of the Pitt people will go drive it for you
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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$17995

It's a borderline "too good to be true" price IMO. That's why I don't know what to do.
thats not too good to be true, the price is reasonable. Why not make the 6 hour trip and check it out, I drove 12 hours one way to get my R
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:03 PM
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You know what......I think I might just make the trek down there this weekend to check it out.

I haven't been to Pittsburgh in about 10 years. From my memory, it's one of the greatest cities to drive into at night. Great tunnel action!!

Thanks everyone!!

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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (jstock107)

I would be sure to have it inspected by an Acura dealership, or another Honda/Acura specialist before commiting to the purchase.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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You know what......I think I might just make the trek down there this weekend to check it out.
Right on - you'll kick yourself later if you don't go check it out. Besides, what R owner hasn't driven their R hard? I think I probably got the most prestine used R in existence, but I also know the owner drove it like it was meant to be driven (when he did manage to get it out of the garage, haha Jeff!)

Does it have a warranty still?
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:13 PM
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Does it have a warranty still?
That's another point I had brought up. Does anybody know generallywhat mods void the factory warranty? Or is it pretty much dealer specific?

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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Default Re: Found an ITR...........should I pursue further? (jstock107)

thats a great price, for that price just buy it and buy a set of stock itr springs online for $100-125.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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My main concern is having the factory warranty void and null from some nimrods modifications
Remember in those cases of a modified car needing warranty work, the dealer has to prove that the mods in fact caused the failure.

I say go check it out!
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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I will check the car for you as soon as I know which Subie Dealer..

oh.. and I think I got the 1st dibs on the mods.. LOL

hm.. if only it's an NBP.. I might just buy it myself.
2 more payments on my 00 R :D :D
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:23 PM
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Thanks so much!!! I'll owe you alot more than just 1st dibs on the parts.

How's a few 's sound?


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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ooh you can save the for D...
I don't drink. Allergy to Alcohol..


just wait. by 10 PM tonight you'll hear from me.
I need to take a spin in the R anyway.. nice day out!

I might even take some pics for you. HeHe..


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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$18k is an ok price... but that means they really gouged the former owner on his trade...

As far as the mods, don't worry about voiding warranty. Check the paint depth to see if it's been repainted. As long as it's straight and clean, you can return the vafc and bolt on mods to stock. You might even make a little $ by selling the mods... ITR shocks and springs are relatively cheap, since so many of us swap them out immediately.

Dealers are required by law to tell you the truth, so ask:

Has it ever been in an accident?

Does it have any paint or body work?

Are these the original miles and the odometer functions correctly?

Check all the body panels for the VIN #.

Check the block and tranny for the VIN #.

Get the car up on a lift and look underneath it for rust and places where it possibly could've been beaten up and/ or repaired from an accident.

Good luck.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:19 PM
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what dealer is this thing at? I can go look at it if you want, maybe snap some pics when I get the free time. Maybe take it for a ride email me or something if you want me to go take some good pics of it(from every angle conceivable)
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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Here's the pics everyone:





I think I may have to put in an offer. Looks like I might have to find an OEM lip very soon though!!





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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Looks like I might have to find an OEM lip very soon though!!
big time - but you can save her!!
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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And some Red badges as well.

For 6 hours, you might as well take a spin up there to see it on hand.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Things I've noticed:

Front lip (Tsunami or some other junk)
Badges
Titanium shift ****
painted calipers

VAFC
AEM CAI
Air conditioning (for wifey)

exhaust - can't see from pics

Can anyone see anything else I should consider????
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