Since the EP3 (New Si) topics in the EG + Civic forum get little to no attention, should this forum expand to RSX/EP3 forum?

Afterall, the RSX does share the K series motor and several other parts with the new Si, so it seems logical.

Thoughts?

 

RIP real hondas 2001

everything new is aka the new si and the RSX just doesnt cut it.

sorry, i'm as emberrased for honda as i am upset

 

and this deals with my question how?

FYI- the K series motor is the *best* Honda has released yet, even better that the B series. Don't mean to rattle your cage, but facts are facts. The only think wrong with the new cars is their suspension, and word is still out on how this will work. Let's see what real raceteams (like realtime) does with theirs before we say stupid things, shall we?

 

oval pistons thats all i have to say
jk
the RSX motor i have heard is good and i cant say anything about the new civic, but i WAS refering to the suspesion and the way they handle....the civic mostly. You know stock for stock the car is just not the same.

oh, and i would argue that the b16 is the best motor honda has ever made.

 

Stock for stock the New Si and the RSX-S is every bit as good as the car it replaces (99-00 Civic Si and 94-01 GSR). Look at the performance numbers--they don't lie.

As for the best Honda motor, the K series no heavier than the B series and you'll see folks getting 240@ the wheels (all motor) with this motor very soon (if not now). No way you'll *ever* see a B16 doing that. Mabve a B18C5 that has been totally, totally worked--but a totally worked K series will put out even better numbers than that.


[Modified by Todd00, 1:58 PM 12/9/2002]

 

I'm EMBARRASED about your education.

 

I think the new Si and RSX should share the same forum. They share so much in common and can help each other out. They have similar K series motors.

rsx type S ( k2oa2)
rsx base (k2oa3)
Si (k2oa3)

Plus questions that they may have we can maybe answer to help them along the way. IMO I say combine the two forums.

 

thats a great suggestion...i think the rsx and new si should be in a forum together

 

I'll ask Dustin to see what he thinks. I think it is a good idea, and it may add some members to this forum.

 

Sounds like a good idea. This forum needs more members, and the cars are similar enough to justify that.

 

Can you back up why you think the B16x is the best motor?

 

yes

 

experience, aftermarket support, PROVEN reliability/potential, established reputation, cheap(er), interchangable with all B-series (minus the 18a and b's)

 

agreed!

on the forum integration that is...


[Modified by LiKe_WhOa!, 12:48 PM 12/10/2002]

 

Everything that you just stated is based on the longtivity of a platform, nothing you stated even talks about the mechanics or technology of the actual engine. If you want to talk about aftermarket support, liability and experience ...talk to us in 5 years.

 

oh wait, you forgot to mention it's also last year's technology!! see ya in the rear view!

edit: yea, add the civic to this forum.


[Modified by F1HONDA, 7:58 AM 12/10/2002]

 

i think it'd be a good idea to integrate make it the RSX/EP3 forum. the cars have a lot in common, and it'll make things more lively here in the RSX forum. I dig the RSX Type S. Test drove one the first week they were out and I was like, . Damn they are nice. I'd prefer a DC5-R from Japan, but that's not really an option right now. Yeah, toi adding EP3's to this forum. Also if Honda of America releases a new R, then this forum should have it as well since the ITR forum guys are so anti-RSX and anti-EP3.

Why yes I too have a b18c5 under the hood, but I definitely respect a nice K-series motor.

-T

 

It makes sense to have the new civic si and rsx be together on honda-tech... cause old school civic and integra owners can hate on them at the same time...

 

...hence the reason why I wanted to see more support here. Most boyz over there are running 18" wheels to "fill out the wheel gap".

 

it's easy to hate a car that can smoke you, eh? LOL

 

Sounds good to me.

Most guys in the EG forum know their b-series engines and have never worked on K-series.

Birds of a feather flock together.

 

Pot, kettle, black.

It's "embarrassed." If you're going to assault other people's grammar you should be sure your own is unassailable.

Edit: yes, I think the EP3 belongs in the same forum as the DC5.



[Modified by Mycroft Holmes, 9:32 PM 12/10/2002]

 

thanx

 

well the fact that it should be in the "motor hall of fame" with the
sylvia motor (SR20DET)
the 2nd gen mr2 turbo motor
supra motor

oh and the fact that it has one of the best rod to stroke ratios...oh yea that matters too not just how big you wing is, how loud you exhaust or how "DANGEROUS" your VEEEETEK is (i'm not even gonna start with the altezzas )

anyway everyone knows that the "older" honda performance motors were more efficient (power)

and for those who insult my writing skills: this is a forum not a flame-a-thon, we are here to share oppinions and help eachother out .... oh wait i'm in the alezza forum wooops, thats why i never bothered clicking on it before

 

Do you even have an idea about what you are saying?

S2000 =

Displacement (cc) 1997
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net) 240 @ 8300
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm) 153 @ 7500


Show me a stock B series with that kind of efficiency...


Anyhow, the B18 is a better motor than the B16. If you build them both, the B18 will be faster...always.