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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 11:50 AM
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I am replacing my 97 interior ac/heater controls with some from a 2ksi. While I have my dash out I thought it would be an opportune time to remove my airbags. I know this is illegal, but the pictures I have seen of deployed airbags are a little scary. It seems like oftentimes they do as much harm as good.

I guess I am asking if anyone here has had experiences that would make them think twice about removing there airbags. I always wear my seatbelt, and I could do the same for any passengers that might tag along. It seems that unless you crash in excess of 70 miles per hour the airbags do no good, and if you do crash at those speeds your chances are bad airbag or not.

I am sure the manufacturers use them for a reason, but I have not seen any stats that say how much they help, or raise your chance for survival in the event of a crash. Thanks guys.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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Keep them in the car! My brother works at an autobody shop and I go there every now and again to take a look at the wrecks. Let's just say, I'd rather lose a whole bunch of skin off of my face on the rough "canvas-like" airbag than kissing the windshield or steering wheel. It really is nasty when you see people's skin and hair embedded in the windshield.

I have also seen many steering wheels dented and bent from the driver's head. OUCH!!

An airbag will not save a life from stupidity/driving wrecklessly, but "MOST" times they are damn good at preventing death and serious injury.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 12:20 PM
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Leave it on!! I don't see why people remove them, they're there for a good reason.

Now if you have a racecar, then maybe..

All the talk about "dood I don't want to be killed by an airbag" is kindof dumb. It depends on the accident you get in. I'm keeping mine forever. I don't want to die in this shitty *** seattle interstate traffic.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 01:42 PM
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seatbelts save wayyyy more lives than airbags, i too have heard a bunch of airbag horror stories ...
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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Now if you have a racecar, then maybe...
There's at least 25 pounds to pull, maybe 30.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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seatbelts save wayyyy more lives than airbags, i too have heard a bunch of airbag horror stories ...
I agree.

Answer me this: How many people have you heard of dying from air bags? Now, how many people have you heard of dying from seatbelts? Airbags were implimented because all you stupid ***** who don't wear your seatbelts were suing the auto manufacturers when you'd get hurt in an accident because the "car wasn't safe enough." Soo... they put air bags to save your worthless *** when they should be sending hitmen to off you so you can't breed more stupid ******* children. Airbags scare the **** out of me. The last thing I want is an explosion to stun me and then a big piece of ******* canvas blocking my grip of the steering wheel in case I'm still rolling after I hit something, which I most likely will because I'm actually smart enough not to plow into something. If I ever hit anything, it'll be a glancing blow.

Airbags=
The fucktards that caused them to be implimented=
Wearing your goddamn seatbelt and taking your head out of your *** while you drive=
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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You may want to consider what will happen if your insurance company finds out. If you take them out and get into an accident, will they cover you if someone gets hurt? Can they void your coverage entirely?

If it's track only, do what you want. But if you drive on the street, I would weigh to consequences carefully. I would leave them in.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 03:04 PM
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i would never take my airbags out. i've heard enough stories of airbags saving lives in crashes to make up my mind. there's a lot more force involved in a crash than most people think. even at 40 mph an airbag could be the difference between life and death. keep them in man!
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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I wouldnt ever take my airbag out. If it saves your life, is that 25lbs really worth it?? Dont be a fool...

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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 04:08 PM
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I was not considering doing it for performance. I was thinking about doing it because I always wear my seatbelt, and if you crash at speeds where the airbag deploys you are pretty much rolling the dice anyway. I am not a stunta looking to gut my car. I have seen some frightnening pictures of deployed airbags, and the damage they cause.

Thanks for the input guys. I did not think about the insurance angle. I would imagine that any illegal action performed on your car would pretty much adversely affect your insurance. Good point.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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ITs pretty much up to you on what risks u wanna take if u get caught i think there is jail time (I read CA is like 2-3 yrs??) and if u have an accident your insurance is f'd. As far as being hurt by the airbag I got t-boned in a saturn and was fine until the bag went while i was rolling tothe side of the road and almost knocked me out and ripped a good deal of skin from my arms. Just my 2cents
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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maybe you could take out your airbags and fill the void with foam blocks!!! heh just kidding...dude leave them in there..they will save your life one day...unless mr.forehead wants some skin exchange with miss dashboard
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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I bought a After Market steering wheel, no need for my airbag, dont have a passenger airbag.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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airbags are EVIL...
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 01:48 AM
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Answer me this: How many people have you heard of dying from air bags? Now, how many people have you heard of dying from seatbelts? Airbags were implimented because all you stupid ***** who don't wear your seatbelts were suing the auto manufacturers when you'd get hurt in an accident because the "car wasn't safe enough." Soo... they put air bags to save your worthless *** when they should be sending hitmen to off you so you can't breed more stupid ******* children. Airbags scare the **** out of me. The last thing I want is an explosion to stun me and then a big piece of ******* canvas blocking my grip of the steering wheel in case I'm still rolling after I hit something, which I most likely will because I'm actually smart enough not to plow into something. If I ever hit anything, it'll be a glancing blow.

Airbags=
The fucktards that caused them to be implimented=
Wearing your goddamn seatbelt and taking your head out of your *** while you drive=

Actually, champ, airbags deploy and deflate in roughly half the time it takes you to blink your eye. It's not like they stay inflated like a balloon - so your retarded *** comment about airbags affecting ability to control vehicle after a crash is simply pointless and wrong.

Seatbelts DO cause deaths - Airbags DO cause deaths.

However, the number of lives they save is far greater then the number of deaths they cause. That is why you will see me wearing my seatbelt and making sure Im properly positioned so the airbag doesnt rip my face off. If properly seated, you should bounce into the airbag, not off of it.

I'm glad youre so enlightened on how to crash a car, and I hope you have as good of luck as you think you will when you actually do crash, smash your face off the steering wheel and go unconscious, and really CANT control your car - hopefully then you'll realize why 'fucktards caused them to be implented'

to you and your retarded *** post.

Oh, and I feel bad for the passengers in your car, assuming your car is new enough to have the wonderul tedchnoogy known as SRS - who you have put at a severe disadvantage by disabling their airbag. Hopefully in your car accident you will be fortunate enough not to kill anyone and survive to deal with your ignorance for the rest of your existence.


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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Oh, and I feel bad for the passengers in your car, assuming your car is new enough to have the wonderul tedchnoogy known as SRS - who you have put at a severe disadvantage by disabling their airbag. Hopefully in your car accident you will be fortunate enough not to kill anyone and survive to deal with your ignorance for the rest of your existence.
Well thought out reply:
Reading comprehension skills:

Just kidding. I have not taken them out of my car. I was considering doing it when I swap in the 99 si interior accountrements. I had not thought about the insurance implications. I think that I will leave them in because I don't want to void my medical coverage. I was hoping for either first hand experience, or unbiased statistics, as opposed to a monologue about the wonders of SRS. I do appreciate your reply though.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 08:55 AM
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Well thought out reply:
Reading comprehension skills:

Just kidding. I have not taken them out of my car.
I don't think ezekiel's post was directed at you. It was directed at the person to whom he was replying.

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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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I have a great idea, just take them out and don't get into a front end collision.
Im just kidding, I really could careless weather I have them in or not, I do want a spoon steering wheel so I guess when I get that my passengers wont die if I crash into something... I just wear my seatbelt and try not to be an idoit on the road.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:06 AM
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I am replacing my 97 interior ac/heater controls with some from a 2ksi. While I have my dash out I thought it would be an opportune time to remove my airbags. I know this is illegal, but the pictures I have seen of deployed airbags are a little scary. It seems like oftentimes they do as much harm as good.

I guess I am asking if anyone here has had experiences that would make them think twice about removing there airbags. I always wear my seatbelt, and I could do the same for any passengers that might tag along. It seems that unless you crash in excess of 70 miles per hour the airbags do no good, and if you do crash at those speeds your chances are bad airbag or not.

I am sure the manufacturers use them for a reason, but I have not seen any stats that say how much they help, or raise your chance for survival in the event of a crash. Thanks guys.
take it out and put a block off tray.. a lot of the lower model civic's in canada have a block off tray. seatbelts save lifes airbags are useless, i have got in two accient which the airbag didn't go off and the seatbelt saved my life not the airbag
it's really your choice.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:12 AM
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seatbelts save lifes airbags are useless, i have got in two accient which the airbag didn't go off and the seatbelt saved my life not the airbag
it's really your choice.
You lived, didn't you?

The fact that the airbag didn't go off and you lived speaks for itself.

Some people have been known to get pissed if the airbag didn't go off in a REAR collision. The ability to understand HOW and WHY airbags work must be contained in some gene that only some people have.

Shawn
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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the airbags are outta my car, they were tookin out before i bought the car, i'm kinda glad cuz i don't want airbags in my car. my friend told me about his friend being in an accident and the airbag deployed and the powder from the airbag has fucked his life up, he can't do anything he just sits in wheel chair all day, i say get a 3 point harness and that should work the best as far as saving your life.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:23 AM
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my friend jordan has a 96 ek with a gsr, he bottomed out on a manhole cove the was like 4 inches out of the ground (ct loves road wok), it his his oil pan and suspenton ad both air bck went off, broke his nose and 2 of the passenger fingers

i think im all set air bags....i have a 95 cx and it came with pass. air bag...i put a 92 dash in withno airbag stop and a 93 teg steering wheel
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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i got a teg dash in my car and i left the steering wheel air bag in and i dont have a passegner air bag cause most of teh time i drive by myself. before anyone enters my car i tell them there's no passenger air bag so if they dont liek it they can get out if they dont feel safe and if there fine wit it then they can stay.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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street car, keep the air bags! 30 lbs isnt worth the risk of injuring a loved one
race car, air bags? what are those
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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Actually, champ, airbags deploy and deflate in roughly half the time it takes you to blink your eye. It's not like they stay inflated like a balloon - so your retarded *** comment about airbags affecting ability to control vehicle after a crash is simply pointless and wrong.
So, tell me this, where does the airbag go after it inflates and deflates? Does it fall onto your lap? Does it get sucked back into the steering wheel? No. It hangs there like an empty *******. Ever see how big one of these things are when deflated (right after; I don't mean 30 minutes later)? They pretty much block your grasp of the wheel, so if you are still moving, you can't control the direction of the car. That's not to say you want to keep driving home, but if I'm moving, I want to be able to steer to avoid hitting anything else. And let's talk about being stunned... ever hear an airbag go off? I have. When I was in college to get my ASE certification, we blew an airbag and goddamn, was that thing ******* LOUD. So let's look at what would happen in an accident... first of all, if you see it coming, it's not going to happen, so 1) the initial impact happens by surprise, disorienting you. 2) The airbag goes off right in front of your face in an enclosed compartment. While it's not going to make your ears bleed, the sudden noise is just adding to the confusion. 3) Now you can't steer, so if you are rolling, you're pretty much incapacitated.

Seatbelts DO cause deaths - Airbags DO cause deaths.
So let's all start walking.

However, the number of lives they save is far greater then the number of deaths they cause.
I will agree with this.

That is why you will see me wearing my seatbelt and making sure Im properly positioned so the airbag doesnt rip my face off. If properly seated, you should bounce into the airbag, not off of it.
And again, I'll agree. My seat stays as upright as it can be and I feel weird not wearing a seatbelt.


I'm glad youre so enlightened on how to crash a car,
OK, I'll admit... I'm actually speaking theoretically here. See, I've never crashed a car. I've been in cars that have crashed, and I was hit by a guy who ran a red light once, but I've never plowed into anything, and I seriously doubt I ever will. I've been through three professional drivers schools and while I try to be humble, I do know what the **** I'm doing. I'm not saying I'll never be in an accident. I can only control what my car does or does not hit. And this is the root of my beef with airbags. If the driver education system were to get it's **** in gear and actually teach people to control their cars, we wouldn't have half the fatalities (airbags or not) that we do now. Granted, there are those that will never understand the concept of what a car does in different situations, and that's fine. But I still think that dumb drivers are the root

to you and your retarded *** post.
for your attitude. If you don't agree with me, fine. Present your argument in a mature fashion. Swear all you want, but don't disrespect me. Like I told someone else recently- if we were in the same room, you would NOT have the tone that you do here, so drop it.

Oh, and I feel bad for the passengers in your car, assuming your car is new enough to have the wonderul tedchnoogy known as SRS
It is, but it only has one, so your sympathy is misdirected.

- who you have put at a severe disadvantage by disabling their airbag.
Well, again... they dont have an airbag. And where do you get that I disabled mine? Yes, I'd *LOVE* to, but for insurance reasons, I won't. I'll talk **** about how fucked up laws are all day, but when it comes down to it, you simply CANNOT fight the law.

Hopefully in your car accident you will be fortunate enough not to kill anyone and survive to deal with your ignorance for the rest of your existence.
I'm sorry. I really hate to sound arrogant, but that's just not going to happen. You don't know me from Adam, so I forgive your ignorance. Have a nice day.


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