^ what it says ~

 

a lot of people say they are not realiable...
IMO i fu built it right, it its a great setup.. a guy from the club ha one for over 2 yrs.... it runs great ans strong.... nuttin to be against...

 

i got one and i think it sucks, mine wasnt built right though, and i used **** that is too rediculous for the street, use milder cams and lower compression pistons and you should be fine...

 

The point is if you dont build it correctly it doesnt work correctly. Second of all I think we all know which block is easier to get B18C1 or B18A. And finally if you want to do it right make sure you have lots of cash. See importbuilders for an example. I have seen many blow and many that are still running strong. and if built right they will overpower most other B series engines. Again back to the point. Make sure you build it correctly or dont even bother. IMO

 

Not that Im doubting you. cause im not. seen to many b16 making 200+. dont where might i find a link to you 330+ hpb18c.
sorry for the way off topic

 

B18C making 330 HP while N/A? I would like to know what parts THAT has..!!

 

the only thing is it costs alot more than it does on paper to build a reliable LSVTEC

1.Head Studs
2.Oil pump
3.New bearings and rings
4.VTEC or forged pistons with oversized valve reliefs
5.Balanced crank
6.Block girdle
7.Water pump
8.All new gaskets and seals
9.Countless trips to Auto Zone for brake cleaner, light bulbs of your working in the dark, trips to sears to retun busted ratchets, etc etc etc.
10.Having a machine shop check the head.
11.Feeler guages to set lash
12.REPLACE THE REAR MAIN WHILE THE MOTOR IS OUT!
13.Your gonna want to buy a clutch also.
14.White plug Jap distributors are expensive, hard to find, and prone to wearing out prematurely.
15.Thats all I can think of right now.

EDIT-moral of the story? LS Turbo, faster, more reliable, has a nicer "ring" to it than LSVTEC does.


[Modified by riceboy, 7:49 AM 11/30/2002]

 

ok i have been reading what you guys have to say and i want to buy a b18a motor and i was thinking of LsVtec but some one told me to just power the motor with a turbo or something and for get the LsVtec, but what do you guys think is better cuase i can trust a store up were i live doing the job right and if they dont do it right or mess up they will fix it for no price or something like that, but i have done searches and the b18a fits my car best but what do you guys think? i own a 88 dx

 

can someone explain what is the "right way" to builing a LSvtec?

 

The right way is differnt to alot of people...

The LS/Vtec gets a bad name because people dont know what they are doing. They slap a GSR/B16a head on a bone stock B18a with 150,000 miles and rape the **** out it and expect it to last?... Well it just doesnt work like that. The rod stroke ratio of a B18a/b isnt the best for high reving, and takes the honda "longevity away" It can be done right.. Some people recommend rebuilding their engines, which is a very good idea. New bearings, rings etc all help out. This is what I recommend when doing a basic ls/vtec swap.

Vtec Oil Pump - Its a must!
Main Girdle - (b18c) If you are going to put alot of power to this engine, mightas well do it
Proper Engine managment, after you get your engine running, Tune it, dont put it off, take it to the dyno and get it running right!

I recently finished my LS/Vtec, My first impression was "hmmm ok where is that B18 torque?" after driving it for a week, I had to get it tuned. After getting it tunned it runs alot better, its pretty fast I guess, but I dont like NA hondas period.

Jeff Frank

 

tune it with what?

and what ECU are you running?

My PR3 ECU required no tuning.